Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax
Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005
Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.
The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.
Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.
As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.
It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.
Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.
The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.
The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.
Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"
He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."
The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.
The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.
Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.
The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.
No need to do so. All I have to do here is respond to extreme right mob rule advocates. As to the bombings and any comments of mine, look on other threads. Try the ones when that are not "good old boy lets kill all the non-whites" threads
Absolution by Siegfried Sassoon The anguish of the earth absolves our eyes Till beauty shines in all that we can see. War is our scourge; yet war has made us wise, And, fighting for our freedom, we are free. Horror of wounds and anger at the foe, And loss of things desired; all these must pass. We are the happy legion, for we know Time's but a golden wind that shakes the grass. There was an hour when we were loth to part From life we longed to share no less than others. Now, having claimed this heritage of heart, What need we more, my comrades and my brothers?
Speaks volumes.
I am not sure using such terms as "Klan like" is the best way to make your point, but I am sure you realize that many here are just blowing off steam.
Perhaps if the governments of the world were less concerned with being PC and more concerned with the safety of their citizens, people wouldn't even think about taking matters into their own hands.
Great. Brilliant. Great.
Very nice ain't it?. We can joust a little here. Hopefully the Moderator does not interject and tell us it is not a chat line. Well, we do not have to make it so. Anyway, a topic possibly elsewhere is what you have raised. The reasoned quiet rationalization of any situation and just what to do. This is followed by either a proper approach and possibly INTERTIA.
This might be cut short by those good souls, 'er Americans who strangly enough quote Shakespeare more than Britons. (Love 'em). They cry.
Unleash the Dogs of War. Hmm.... I sense that we deal with a sense of balance. Know when to hold 'em, know when to hold 'em. A bit too caught up tonight on this whole thing. Hate to see people hurt. Hate to see the DEATH OF A NATION.
Hyperbole much?
Sounds like a solution worth a try. They have already given peace a chance and that didn't work so well.
Got a feeling that any right wing in England has be PLUCKED... long ago..
No, but moral self-congratulation for opposing it without addressing why "the natives are restless" is.
And since you don't know me just let me tell you that I am about as far from being a liberal as one can get.
Could you contribute something a little more vapid, please?
I merely dilike the thought of mobs of thugs destroying property and beating people indiscriminantly.
As should anyone with a regard for the rule of law. But it takes a real moral pygmy to throw rocks at the vigilantes when those same rock have to sail past the "cops that wouldn't come" to reach their targets.
But what the hell, go right ahead, after all it worked for the Nazi's in the 30's
No, you're not a liberal. The only response you can belch out to being a naughty little drone is "Nazi," but you're not a liberal.
It seems to me our own "frontier justice" while not particularly nuanced was a notable contributor to building a fairly impressive nation.
Are you even a little embarrassed by using the old "self-esteem assault" that is the hallmark of petulant little girls?
Oh, I see you are declaring victory and running away...figures.
Guess I don't need to answer anymore of your pseudo-conservative inanities.
I read and appreciate. Thanks. Hopefully all here-'er not you John, might go over carefully tommorrow what we have felt. I do plead with Freepers- whom I love for their rightful fury, go light on those whom fear the press of the crowd.
Perhaps the cynical corrupt, rotten, blasted Guardian has an agenda. Well everybody, we shall wait and see.
Commitment to the individual is the foundation of our society. How then can we sheild ourselves with individualism when our enemies have designed weapons with that very target in mind?
I hereby invoke Godwin's Law.
You lose.
HOW TO DIE, by Siegfried Sassoon Dark clouds are smouldering into red While down the craters morning burns. The dying soldier shifts his head To watch the glory that returns: He lifts his fingers toward the skies Where holy brightness breaks in flame; Radiance reflected in his eyes, And on his lips a whispered name. You'd think, to hear some people talk, That lads go West with sobs and curses, And sullen faces white as chalk, Hankering for wreaths and tombs and hearses. But they've been taught the way to do it Like Christian soldiers; not with haste And shuddering groans; but passing through it With due regard for decent taste.
Dang homes...what took you so long?
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