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Wilson Admits Wife Not a 'Covert' Agent (CNN Interview transcript)
CNN | 7-14-05 | Wolf Blitzer

Posted on 07/15/2005 8:37:10 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier

While many news sources report it as fact, it is very unclear what Valerie Plame's status is/was. Here's the most important part of Wilson's interview from last night. In order to protect himself from criticism about the Vanity Fair photo shoot, the book deal, and his generally self-aggrandizing, self-enriching behavior since July 2003, Wilson admits that his wife was not a covert agent:

BLITZER: But the other argument that's been made against you is that you've sought to capitalize on this extravaganza, having that photo shoot with your wife, who was a clandestine officer of the CIA, and that you've tried to enrich yourself writing this book and all of that.

What do you make of those accusations, which are serious accusations, as you know, that have been leveled against you.

WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

BLITZER: But she hadn't been a clandestine officer for some time before that?

WILSON: That's not anything that I can talk about. And, indeed, I'll go back to what I said earlier, the CIA believed that a possible crime had been committed, and that's why they referred it to the Justice Department.

She was not a clandestine officer at the time that that article in Vanity Fair appeared. And I have every right to have the American public know who I am and not to have myself defined by those who would write the sorts of things that are coming out, being spewed out of the mouths of the RNC...


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; cnn; joewilson; josephwilson; valerieplame
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To: The Old Hoosier
Joseph Wilson trying on his new hat.
2 posted on 07/15/2005 8:39:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
So has anyone else noticed that this "scandal" has dropped off the radar faster than any scandal in history? AOL isn't even using it on their opening page, and Drudge has several debunking Wilson stories.

DUmmies must look like a cartoon character who's just been walloped, with little stars orbitting their heads and birdies chirping, as they post "What happened???!??!?!?!" and "The evil rightwing NYT is killing this story" and 'I'm ashamed to be an American" threads.

But the next scandal that happens they'll try to kick the football again and shout "THIS IS THE ONE!!!!"

3 posted on 07/15/2005 8:40:20 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("I never claimed to have “debunked” the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa."-Joe W)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

I think it's still very much on the radar today.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 8:43:17 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Now doesn't Schumer look like a fool now for appearing with him? Boxer is also an idiot. She said no fewer than 5 times that Rove outed a "covert" CIA Agent. The whole MSM and Rat's talking points was how Rove outed a "covert" CIA agent and that Wilson/Plame's life was ruined but then Liar Wilson contradicts them. I'm noting a very subtle tone today in the Rats, I wonder what gives?
5 posted on 07/15/2005 8:43:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: The Old Hoosier

The MSM *wants* something to be there, although the evidence is overwhelming that there is nothing there.

It's kind of sad, in a way.


6 posted on 07/15/2005 8:45:08 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
DUmmies must look like a cartoon character who's just been walloped, with little stars orbitting their heads and birdies chirping, as they post "What happened???!??!?!?!" and "The evil rightwing NYT is killing this story" and 'I'm ashamed to be an American" threads.

Well, here's the latest thread on the subject at DUmmie World

7 posted on 07/15/2005 8:45:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: tobyhill

"I'm noting a very subtle tone today in the Rats, I wonder what gives?"

It's a bg exclusive the NYT is working on: Karl Rove used Jedi Mind tricks to make Wilson lie. Yeah, yeah, THAT's the ticket...


8 posted on 07/15/2005 8:46:40 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
I think we ought to get off this fact as to whether or not a crime was committed....even if one was not, which all signs point to, the rats and their shills in the MSM will do anything they can to present our President and Karl Rove in bad light....we really need to concentrate on who told Novak, what the Slimes/Judith Miller are hiding and really bring to the forefront the total hypocrisy of rats like Chcuk Schiester...someone who was mum when Sandy Berger committed a felony crime and voted AGAINST the '82 legislation which made outing a spy a crime....something he hold dear to his heart.
9 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:41 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
WILSON: Well, it strikes me that it's typical of a Rove-type operation. "Slime and defend" is what it's been called in the past.

"Slime and defend" is a "Rove-type operation"? Even when it's being done by Dims like Durbin, Schumer, etc, etc, etc????? Rove should demand royalty payments from the Dims. He would soon be a billionaire...

But the fact of the matter is, of course, that this is not a Joe Wilson or Valerie Wilson issue. This is an issue of whether or not somebody leaked classified information to the press, who then published it, thereby putting covert operations and a covert officer at some risk.

I thought you just admitted your wife wasn't covert!

10 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:52 AM PDT by LRS
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To: The Old Hoosier
Okay - I gotta ask the question [glad I still have nomex on], but does anyone really think this says what is being claimed?

In response to the question that Blitzer asked, it looks to me like he is saying "When we had our picture taken, my wife wasn't clandestine because she hadn't been since the day Novak outed her."

Just my read. I tend to think that the answer only means something in context of the question. YMMV.

11 posted on 07/15/2005 8:49:48 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
Coburn Lone Opponent On Spending Bill.
12 posted on 07/15/2005 8:50:11 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: The Old Hoosier

I woudln't hang your hat on this one. Rather, I'd point out that the last time Plame was out in the field as a covert agent was 1997, and thus the 5-year limit on exposing her as such expired long before the presstitutes and Rove began their back-and-forth on this.


13 posted on 07/15/2005 8:50:29 AM PDT by steveegg (Now that the FReepathon is over, I'm in search of a tagline)
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To: lugsoul

Wilson is a fraud.


14 posted on 07/15/2005 8:50:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: The Old Hoosier

On the political sites, sure, but not nearly so much as in the mainstream. The news channels will still cover it I imagine but the steam is coming out of this sucker fast.


15 posted on 07/15/2005 8:51:05 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (""My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: The Old Hoosier
WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

BLITZER: But she hadn't been a clandestine officer for some time before that?

WILSON: That's not anything that I can talk about.

HAHA..Shades of..


16 posted on 07/15/2005 8:51:13 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Maceman
Someone from Dickbrains Unanimous with a bit of sense...his parent must be Republicans!
17 posted on 07/15/2005 8:51:18 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: The Old Hoosier

It depends on what your definition of is is.


18 posted on 07/15/2005 8:51:34 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Maceman

God Bless You. How do you go there? I would have to take a shower after reading there stuff. Given that. I definetly like that gents quote.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 8:52:47 AM PDT by newconhere
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To: tobyhill

Schumer looked like a fool when he was in the 1st grade.


20 posted on 07/15/2005 8:53:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Darth Rove and Sith Bush 43


21 posted on 07/15/2005 8:53:57 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Two moles were outed .
Ten points for our team.
Zip for the appeasers.


22 posted on 07/15/2005 8:54:36 AM PDT by TET1968
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To: steveegg

The only thing that worries is me is that the CIA referred it for prosecution, so they obviously believed it met the statute. In addition, Fitzgerald sure has taken a long time if its so simple that there was no crime.


23 posted on 07/15/2005 8:54:53 AM PDT by DCBill
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To: The Old Hoosier

The guy is still lying, and Blitzer is still letting him get away with it.

The Intel committee had the memo Mrs. Wilson wrote recommending him for the job.

They are still letting Wilson get away with calling his visit to Niger an "investigation", which it flatly was not. He investigated nothing at all. What he did, he could have done by telephone without ever leaving his apartment. "Did you make any illegal sales? No? OK, thanks."

There was no investigation.


24 posted on 07/15/2005 8:55:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: The Old Hoosier

According to this morning's New York Times, a "political maelstorm" is swirling around the White House.
More like a marshmallow. This is all a bunch of nothing! And Dems and MoveOn.org are looking like fools for trying to make this Watergate II.


25 posted on 07/15/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: Maceman
The whole tone of that thread is a LOT different from the anger and jubillation of yesterday. They're very subdued.

I expect the real rage to hit later today, but that's a surprisingly subdued thread for a bunch who are supposedly celebrating Rove's impending destruction.

26 posted on 07/15/2005 8:57:41 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (""My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: lugsoul
"... because she hadn't been since the day Novak outed her."

Just my read. I tend to think that the answer only means something in context of the question. YMMV.

I see - you are saying the key is SINCE he "outed" her - Wilson is suggesting that she was "clandestine agent" up to that point.

27 posted on 07/15/2005 8:58:23 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Plame was NOT, I repeat was NOT a covert agent stationed overseas. So the law DOES NOT APPLY to Plame. Period! The whole purpose of the law was/is to protect agents stationed overseas. Employees working at Langley certainly don't qualify.

gezzzzzzzzzzz
28 posted on 07/15/2005 8:59:50 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: TET1968

"Two moles were outed .
Ten points for our team.
Zip for the appeasers."


I think that Plame and Wilson were outed. Plame's supervisor, Foley suddenly retired when this story went public two summers ago.

Plame/Wilson are probably friends of Judith Miller and brought her on board in the early stages of their sham. Miller sold the editors and publisher of the Slimes to go big with the story.

Now she is going to jail rather than admit that she got her info from Plame/Wilson, which would really put the Slimes in an even worse place with this mess.

Before this is over, a lot of Rat moles, liars and plotters will be outed.


29 posted on 07/15/2005 9:00:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Maceman

Too funny.


30 posted on 07/15/2005 9:00:45 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Does anybody remember the last time there was any "news" on the Tom Delay "scandal"?


31 posted on 07/15/2005 9:01:27 AM PDT by Ozone34
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To: Andy from Beaverton
It depends on what your definition of is is.

Our daughter is taking a college psychology class this summer and her instructor was talking about communication.

She said something to the effect, "I won't even talk about our present president's communication skills."

Our daughter said, "Well, at least he knows the definition of 'is'." No response from the prof... Wonder why?

32 posted on 07/15/2005 9:01:48 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Maceman

Wow, I just read through the thread. That is TOO funny! How are they ever going to take back the White House if everyone is a conspirator. The DUmmies are whacked out.


33 posted on 07/15/2005 9:02:29 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: DCBill
The only thing that worries is me is that the CIA referred it for prosecution, so they obviously believed it met the statute. In addition, Fitzgerald sure has taken a long time if its so simple that there was no crime.

Understandable because it was common knowledge among the presstitutes shortly after the 5-year window expired. The question of when they found out and, if it was before 5 years, who told them remains unanswered (IMHO, it came from a RAT mole, possibly the Wilsons themselves; but I'm not giving odds on whether that happened before or after it became legal to do so).

34 posted on 07/15/2005 9:04:03 AM PDT by steveegg (Now that the FReepathon is over, I'm in search of a tagline)
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To: tobyhill

Aye. I'm just itching to see Mace Windex (Hillary) get her comeuppance...


35 posted on 07/15/2005 9:04:18 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Ozone34
LOL EXACTLY--I mentioned that last night. That sucker evaporated overnight.

BTW just now the local (Boston) news came on, the ABC affiliate--Rove wasn't mentioned in the opening teaser, which managed to mention the Space Shuttle and two local stories.

36 posted on 07/15/2005 9:04:42 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (""My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: lugsoul
Apparently Plame's cover job for her covert activities was her position at Langley CIA headquarters. No other 'cover' has been put forth. Even Maxwell Smart would have had a better cover job than this.

"Who me, a spy? Why do you think that, I just work at the CIA. Excuse me. I have to answer my shoe."
37 posted on 07/15/2005 9:06:23 AM PDT by dblshot (Whose account can I count on?)
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To: Fido969
Question after Wilson admits she was not "covert" at the time Novak article came out.

BLITZER: But she hadn't been a clandestine officer for some time before that?

WILSON: That's not anything that I can talk about.

If he was not able to discuss when the last time she was a
clandestine officer then he shouldn't have discussed if she was or wasn't on that day which he said she wasn't. He slipped, he screwed up but the truth was revealed and everyone knows exactly what he meant with what he said.
38 posted on 07/15/2005 9:06:26 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Juan Medén
Here MY conspiracy theory.

Ahem....

Judith Miller's "source" IS Rove, and the going to jail act is a big attention getting device so when this whole matter comes to a boil - and they put bamboo splints under here fingernails - she will suddenly cry out "Rove! It was Rove!!!" Then the MSM will have a field day waxing poetic about how the heroic Judith Miller suffered so much sticking by her principals in order to protect the Evil Rove.
This whole thing was cooked up by the NYT editorial board in a double-secret undocumented board meeting in the backroom of the Harvard Club in Manhattan about 2 years ago. As we speak, the evil "Pinch" is rubbing his hands together in glee as it play out exactly according to his dastardly plan.
39 posted on 07/15/2005 9:08:32 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Hildabeast ain't jumpin on this one. Wilson would take her down too with his lies.
40 posted on 07/15/2005 9:10:03 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Maceman
It looks like even the DUmies are realizing Rove has once again humiliated the Dems.
41 posted on 07/15/2005 9:10:15 AM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: dblshot
"No other 'cover' has been put forth."

First, no one is really spending much time talking about the details of her cover, for good reason.

Second, I guess you've never heard of Brewster Jennings? You know, the CIA front company that was her 'employer'? The one that also 'employed' other agents who were no longer covert after Plame's status was publicized?

42 posted on 07/15/2005 9:11:38 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Grampa Dave
Plame's supervisor, Foley suddenly retired when this story went public two summers ago.

I'm sure there were plenty of people forced into retirement when the story broke. We know for sure the fake place she was using as her job had to be shut down because of it. Even if she wasn't covert at the time, if she was covert in the past, anything she touched and anyone she talked to were burned.
43 posted on 07/15/2005 9:12:21 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: Grampa Dave

I think you could be on to something. Wilson's statement now that his wife was not undercover could be to help divert attention from the fact that he said she was when he shopped out the story two years ago.


44 posted on 07/15/2005 9:12:55 AM PDT by palmer (If you see flies at the entrance to the burrow, the ground hog is probably inside)
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To: Grampa Dave

Now Valerie Plame's former CIA supervisor, Fred Rustman (who WAS a covert official) has gone on record saying she was not a covert employee...and that virtually everyone in the social circle around her and Wilson knew that she worked at the CIA.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050715-121257-9887r.htm


45 posted on 07/15/2005 9:13:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Maceman

Whew.....this DU thread would be funny except that they are so INCREDIBLY INSANE!!!! They (DUmmies) walk among us, people...BE AFRAID!


46 posted on 07/15/2005 9:13:59 AM PDT by mpackard
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To: The Old Hoosier

47 posted on 07/15/2005 9:14:41 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Fido969

That is exactly my suggestion. Wolf's question presupposes that there was something untoward about their 'photo shoot', since she was a 'clandestine agent.' Wilson replies that she wasn't a clandestine agent on the day Novak published. Sounds to me like he was saying "There wasn't anything wrong with doing that shoot, her name was already out there from Novak."


48 posted on 07/15/2005 9:14:48 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: LRS

Just a guess, but I suspect that Valerie Plame leaked the info to the NYT reporter--It makes sense because her husband was getting grilled at the time and it's the old bait and switch that the CIA likes to do....


49 posted on 07/15/2005 9:20:25 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Grampa Dave

Karl Rove should sue Joe Wilson and all the newspapers, magazine's, politicians etc. for falsely accusing him. He would make millions!
Joe Wilson should be prosecuted for impersonating a diplomat sent to Niger by Cheney.
Yeah.Yeah.Yeah!!


50 posted on 07/15/2005 9:20:58 AM PDT by batmast
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