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ACLU pushes state on Quran oaths
News Record ^ | 14-July-05 | Eric Collins

Posted on 07/15/2005 4:47:09 PM PDT by Jay777

GREENSBORO — The ACLU of North Carolina on Monday accused state court officials of not responding quickly enough to a controversy involving the use of the Quran for courtroom oaths.

The group’s legal foundation is calling on the state Administrative Office of the Courts to adopt a policy allowing the Quran and other religious texts for oath-taking in North Carolina courtrooms.

A Greensboro Muslim group has been waiting for an AOC decision for three weeks after Guilford County’s two top judges decided that Muslims could not legally take an oath on the Quran.

“We think they are dragging their feet,” said Jennifer Rudinger, the state ACLU’s executive director.

Her group, along with a Washington-based Islamic civil rights organization and Greensboro-area religious leaders, has called on the AOC to act. The ACLU wrote a formal letter to the state agency June 28 but has received no word back.

An AOC spokesman on Monday denied that the agency was dawdling. Dick Ellis said a judicial conference last month and vacation schedules have kept key decision-makers from working on the issue.

“Nobody has had time to do that around here,” he said.

Informally, Ellis said, most of the agency’s lawyers feel the issue should be resolved by legislators.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aclu; anticonstitution; enemywithin; greensboro; koran; muslimamericans; nc; oath; sedition; traitors
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Isn't this a little hypocritcal of the ACLU? I thought they wanted religious symbols out of the Court.

More at Stop The ACLU

1 posted on 07/15/2005 4:47:11 PM PDT by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
PING! What's next the Wiccan Bible?
2 posted on 07/15/2005 4:48:31 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU

This group just started on December 3, 2004 and are looking for new members to their yahoo group


My Personal Anti-ACLU Blog (Check it out and leave a comment!)

Let me know if you would like to join my ACLU Ping List!
3 posted on 07/15/2005 4:49:28 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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4 posted on 07/15/2005 4:50:14 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

If the Koran orders Muslims to lie to infidels, of what use is having a Muslim swear "to tell the truth" on a Koran, while being tried in an American (that is, infidel) court?


5 posted on 07/15/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Jay777

Sombody should make the ACLU pee in a cup before they're allowed to say even one damned thing.


6 posted on 07/15/2005 4:52:02 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Jay777
The group’s legal foundation is calling on the state Administrative Office of the Courts to adopt a policy allowing the Quran and other religious texts for oath-taking in North Carolina courtrooms.

Since the Quran explicitly approves of lying to infidels, an oath taken on it is literally a promise to lie.

So9

7 posted on 07/15/2005 4:52:37 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Jay777

Only Christianity. It's just a matter of time before they fight for Sharia law in our courts.


8 posted on 07/15/2005 4:53:14 PM PDT by Mr. Keys
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The ACLU won't stop until Christianity is destroyed.

After 09/11 the Quran and it's teachings were hot topics at public schools. Some of them had kids desinging their own jihads. They were encouraged to wear burkhas (sp?) and other Muslim garb. It was just an exercise in diversity don't you know.

They recited verses, memorized passages and basicly studied the Muslim faith.

While this was going on, the ACLU was quiet as a mosque rodent.


9 posted on 07/15/2005 4:53:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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What will be the new oath? "I will kill the infidels, so help me Allah?"
10 posted on 07/15/2005 4:54:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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I don't mind muslims swearing on the Koran. I'll treat it for what it's worth.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 4:55:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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calling on the state Administrative Office of the Courts to adopt a policy allowing the Quran and other religious texts for oath-taking in North Carolina courtrooms.

What good would it do to have Muslims swear on the quran if the quran says it is permissible for true believers to lie to, cheat, steal from, and even kill infidels.

12 posted on 07/15/2005 4:57:55 PM PDT by oldbrowser (There is something Jerry Springerish about the democrats.)
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The ACLU DO want all religious symbols out of the court. They are pushing this kind of thing so Christians and others will fight it, and thus the courts will ultimately be forced to keep ALL religious materials out of the courts.


13 posted on 07/15/2005 5:04:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon, where we send only our FINEST ambassadors)
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The same liberals who want the cross gone from San Diego's Mt. Soledad... Hmmmm

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 07/15/2005 5:05:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"Isn't this a little hypocritcal of the ACLU? I thought they wanted religious symbols out of the Court."

Naaa, they just want Christian religious symbols out of public life.
15 posted on 07/15/2005 5:05:37 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Jay777

"The group’s legal foundation is calling on the state Administrative Office of the Courts to adopt a policy allowing the Quran and other religious texts for oath-taking in North Carolina courtrooms."

HUH?? what about the separation of church and state?

The aclu will be one of the first groups the American people will go after when the next terrorist attack happens. Time to purge the enemy within....


16 posted on 07/15/2005 5:06:35 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (FAKE conservatism is more dangerous than liberalism <<<---at least you know what you're gonna get!)
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To: Brilliant

I understand what you mean. What difference does it really make what the liars swear on? What good would it do for them to swear on a Bible in which they don't believe. I wouldn't trust them no matter what they swore on. Now, I'm not racist about this, but I won't take my chances when it comes to trust either.


17 posted on 07/15/2005 5:08:28 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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They recited verses, memorized passages and basicly studied the Muslim faith.

According to Islam, anyone who recites the shihada "There is no dog like Allah, and Mohammed is his bitch" (words substituted here because I am an infidel, but you know what I mean) automatically converts to Islam. No trade backsies if you didn't mean it, now you are stuck and subject to the death penalty for "apostacy."

Oopsie.

18 posted on 07/15/2005 5:09:29 PM PDT by Alouette (Just when I think liberals can't get any more stupid, I'm wrong.)
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To: Alouette

ACLU = Anti Chrisitian League of Unionists.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 5:11:08 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: Jay777

This is silly. The Koran DEMANDS the murder of "infidels", and requires Muslims to LIE to non-Muslims. How can swearing on the Koran be allowed in any courtroom in the United States?


20 posted on 07/15/2005 5:11:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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