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Photo of U.S. Soldier in Iraq Shaking Hands With Senator Hillary Clinton--But Not Willingly-Truth!
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Posted on 07/19/2005 2:21:01 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Picture of U.S. Soldier in Iraq Shaking Hands With Senator Hillary Clinton--But Not Willingly-Truth!

bullet Summary of the eRumor
The eRumor includes a picture of a U.S. soldier shaking hands with Senator Hillary Clinton.
He is also crossing the fingers of his left hand, which the email says is a soldier's sign for coercion.
 

 

 

bullet The Truth
This eRumor started circulating shortly after Senator Clinton made a Thanksgiving visit to the soldiers in Iraq in 2003.
There was a lot of speculation about what the picture really meant.
Was the soldier really indicating that he didn't like shaking hands with Hillary?
Was the picture doctored to make it look that way?
Was he sending some other kind of message with his crossed fingers?

The answer is that he did intentionally cross his fingers during the handshake and it did mean that he was not thrilled to shake Senator Clinton's hand.
After his discharge from the Army, the soldier posted a personal profile on Yahoo Personals as part of looking for introductions to single females.
In his profile, he includes the picture with Hillary and explains "The picture of me and Hillary Clinton was taken when she came to visit Iraq. I was actually ordered to shake her hand, and I never figured that my friends would circulate it all over the net. I AM NOT a Hillary fan by any stretch."

Updated 5/2/05
A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet:

Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has already started her 2008 presidential campaign by aligning herself with the military and pretending to be tough on terror.  Fortunately, the ultra-liberal Hillary has yet to brainwash all of the voting public into believers that her symbolism is really substance.  Guess some folks will never forget that she was co-president for eight years in an administration that I QUOTE: "Loath the military"!
Absolutely the best picture EVER!   (read the message below the photo)

 The picture shows that this soldier has been thru Survival School and learned his lessons well. He's giving the sign of "coercion" with his left hand. These hand signs are taught in survival school to be used by POW's as a method of posing messages back to our intelligence services who may view the photo or video. This guy was obviously being coerced into shaking hands with Hillary Clinton. It's ironic how little she knew that he would so inform us about the photo---perhaps because she's never understood our military to begin with.

 

 

 


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coercion; crossedfingers; hillary; iraq; liar; military; oldiebutgoodie
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To: doug from upland

I knew what he was doing when I first saw that photo. There was no way his fingers just happened to be crossed like that!!

However, I can't believe he needs to post singles ads--he is adorable!!

ahem....The Happily Married GG


61 posted on 07/19/2005 4:06:07 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: doug from upland
Truth or Fiction and Snopes have both called it real.

I understand that and as I said, I am not an imaging expert. However, I copied the jpg picture file and then opened in Jasc Paint Shop Pro. I am repeating these same steps as I type this. The file is quite small, 34 KB, and lacking in detail. I open the file and set the view for normal 1:1 viewing. I then crop the image to approximately the area covered by the red circle. I then select the zoom function and place the cursor center in the middle of the red circle. I then select "zoom in by 5". What immediately becomes obvious is a perfectly straight horizontal line running across and including the red circle. A line this straight does not occur in nature. I have no way of knowing the editing that took place but I am convinced that the file has been edited.

You, of course, are welcome to draw your own conclusions by examining the file in a way that is suitable to you.

62 posted on 07/19/2005 4:11:17 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: newconhere

Yep. Hecuva good looking guy. And I'm surrounded by them all day. Too bad I'm an old lady.


63 posted on 07/19/2005 4:13:26 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: doug from upland
Look closely and think about how you shake hands. He made SURE that that left had was in the photograph. Hillary, you got out "slyed" by a good old GI.
64 posted on 07/19/2005 4:23:24 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: timydnuc

I thought the same thing. Normally, his hand would have been down by his side. That would have been too low for the shot. He knew it.


65 posted on 07/19/2005 4:29:41 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: MosesKnows

Try zooming in on a different area of the photo, for instance his face. You'll also see horizontal and vertical lines. They are artifacts of the JPEG compression.


66 posted on 07/19/2005 4:30:53 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: idkfa

"I don't know if you know this, but I served in Vietnam."

67 posted on 07/19/2005 4:33:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ordinaryguy
Try zooming in on a different area of the photo

Thank you. I did try what you suggested and I did indeed see what you said I would see. Now, let me ask you to compare that to the line I observed in the red circle and its interior. Was this due to compression or editing?

68 posted on 07/19/2005 4:47:53 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


69 posted on 07/19/2005 4:55:08 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: doug from upland

You can bet you house on that!


70 posted on 07/19/2005 5:05:52 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: All
POLL SAYS WITCH CAN'T BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF
71 posted on 07/19/2005 6:12:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland
Regarding missus clinton and fingers:



HILLARY'S MIDDLE-FINGER MINDSET
Do you really want THAT finger on the button?



link to movie
(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available
HERE)





by Mia T, 7.19.05
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005


72 posted on 07/19/2005 7:27:54 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: dfwgator

"I have three Purple Hearts...and um, you wouldn't understand politics today"..


73 posted on 07/19/2005 11:26:31 PM PDT by Marshall1
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To: doug from upland

Hook me up!


74 posted on 07/20/2005 6:19:23 AM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: doug from upland

Love this pic.


75 posted on 07/20/2005 6:20:30 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: doug from upland

beautiful.


76 posted on 07/20/2005 8:23:13 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: doug from upland

Ahhhh. I knew it was true. My kind of man.


77 posted on 07/20/2005 8:38:10 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: newconhere
HERE YOU GO. IF YOU REACH HIM, LET HIM KNOW WE NEED HIM IN THE HILLARY DOCUMENTARY
78 posted on 07/29/2005 5:37:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: DesignerChick
HERE YOU GO
79 posted on 07/29/2005 5:37:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: MosesKnows
click
80 posted on 07/29/2005 5:40:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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