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ANN COULTER VS. JOHN ROBERTS
NRO ^ | 7/21/05 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 07/21/2005 6:00:22 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

I think she raises some points worth pondering in her column, but ultimately I disagree with her.

She wants a justice who will vote to overturn Roe. So do I. She dislikes the stealth-nominee strategy. So do I. She thinks that it is possible that he could end up compiling a record like the one Souter has. And it is possible; those of us who defend him now may end up having reasons for regret.

But while it is possible that a nominee who openly pledged that he would vote to overturn Roe could get confirmed, it is not at all obvious. There are at least 50 senators who support Roe. A definitely-anti-Roe nominee might be able to win some votes from pro-Roe senators, but no Republican nominee is guaranteed the votes of every anti-Roe senator. (Reid and Pryor might find ways to vote with their caucus.) So it may be necessary to nominate someone who is not 100 percent certain to vote against Roe.

There aren't many possible nominees who would provide that certainty. Michael McConnell has, for example, strongly criticized Roe. But he has never, to my knowledge, said that it should be overturned; it's possible that as a justice he would consider himself obligated to re-affirm the precedent. And again, going any further would at least imperil confirmation.

But the fact that someone isn't certain to vote a particular way does not mean that we can't make inferences. The pro-choicers are, I think, correct to suggest that Roberts's participation in the Rust v. Sullivan brief raises the likelihood that he would vote to overturn Roe. It's not dispositive, but it does establish that he's not so favorable to abortion rights that he felt it necessary to resign or refuse as a matter of conscience to participate in the case. The fact that Roberts's wife is pro-life isn't dispositive, either, but obviously it raises the likelihood, too.

In the cases of O'Connor, Kennedy, and Souter, we didn't have these pro-life clues, and indeed in some cases we had some clues that went the other way--strong ones in the case of O'Connor.

So I think Roberts is likely to make the right decision on abortion, and that is among my reasons for supporting him. But the fact that none of us can be certain is one of the things that may get him confirmed. I certainly hope that pro-lifers (and conservatives generally--as I've argued before, I think that Roe is a useful albeit imperfect index for the other views we should want in a judge) don't get taken again, but I think there's a case for hopefulness.


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1 posted on 07/21/2005 6:00:22 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Ok, Who has the crystal ball?


2 posted on 07/21/2005 6:02:45 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Coulter was wrong. Her column about Roberts had to be the worst one she's written since she spoke against legalizing drugs.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 6:02:50 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Ann is Paranoid !

Show some faith in your President.

Not everything will go your way !


4 posted on 07/21/2005 6:03:58 AM PDT by Zenith
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

An anti-Roe nominee should make the case that the Supremes should merely return to the Senate the right to legislate.


5 posted on 07/21/2005 6:08:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing couldn't cure!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm with both of you, and agree with this article. Especially important is the point that no Justice should, in effect, guarantee in advance that he/she will vote a certain way in a certain case. That's a disqualifying mistake.

The best one can do -- as a citizen or a Senator -- is delve deeply into the philosophy of the nominee and see whether he agrees with the President that Justices should enforce the Constitution, not rewrite it.

By that standard, I think Roberts will be a fine Justice.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Re: John Roberts, Supreme Court Nominee"

6 posted on 07/21/2005 6:08:25 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush's SECOND appointment obey the Constitution? I give 95-5 odds on yes.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Ramesh must need "puffing" to compare himself with Ann.

Good thing he doesn't influence many thinkers.


7 posted on 07/21/2005 6:08:32 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

It's not about Roe... Roe is only one example of what happens when the SC "legislates from the bench". It's about upholding the Cosntitution in its original intent. If every SC candidate is put through the Roe litmus test by the donkeys AS WELL AS THE REPUBLICANS we have missed the bigger picture. For those who want Roe overturned, I suggest a strategy where it is done in phases. This is the very thing liberals fear and probably the most effective strategy in a country that DOES now freqently parrot the phrase "a women's right to choose".


8 posted on 07/21/2005 6:10:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Zenith

Showing faith in stealth nominees by republican presidents hasn't exactly been working out.


9 posted on 07/21/2005 6:11:26 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: rhombus

It's all about Roe & Gay Marriage make no mistake.


10 posted on 07/21/2005 6:11:56 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

What's the point? That W should withdraw John Roberts and appoint someone more conservative? What are the chances of that? Or is the point that all the stalwart conservatives should oppose the President and join with Schumer and Kennedy in defeating Roberts?

What is Ann actually proposing besides a lot of attention for herself?


11 posted on 07/21/2005 6:12:05 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And it is possible; those of us who defend him now may end up having reasons for regret.

I think that's very possible ten or fifteen years from now but not at the moment.

Many people change over time, and their values change as well. How can we be sure that today's Conservative isn't tomorrow's liberal activist?

At the moment Robert's seems to be a reliable pick for the court, but the people have no way to get rid of a judge after he's appointed and confirmed. Impeachment is a farce, and Congress has a Committee on the Judiciary that never takes a judge to task for any unconstitutional ruling.

The temptation to create unconstitutional law is too great to leave to unaccountable jurists. More checks are needed on the judiciary, and Congress must be held responsible for their lack of judicial oversight.

12 posted on 07/21/2005 6:13:19 AM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Ann is expressing her worries as we have been burned before but I don't agree with her on this one. Of course no one can be certain. Perhaps she is a little upset that her preferred choice, whomever that person is, was not chosen. I trust President Bush and I think he did his best to choose someone that, in the end, we will all be happy with.


13 posted on 07/21/2005 6:14:04 AM PDT by sydbas
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To: TexasCajun; faithincowboys; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Let's ask faithincowboys and extremely extreme extremist. They seem to know a lot about what's best for the president and the Supreme Court.


14 posted on 07/21/2005 6:15:09 AM PDT by rabidralph (We are surrounded by pants-wetting FReepers)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT:

Rule One: You cannot post about Ann without a picture. This is regulary noted rule, the moderator should note this.

Second: Ann has a right to state her opinion, just like we do.

Third: I tend to agree with your comments but keep in mind the senate hearings are over a month away and we need to spend this time researching him and making decisions then.

Finally: Always refer to Rule One.


15 posted on 07/21/2005 6:15:23 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
IMO what better way for her to be invited on every liberal news show but to show disregard for the nominee.

At that time she can be a voice for our side in explaining lots of things including Plame etc. JMO

16 posted on 07/21/2005 6:15:48 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Congressman Billybob

Whoaaaah... did a double take at the date. Wayforward machine.


17 posted on 07/21/2005 6:16:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: kharaku
It's all about Roe & Gay Marriage make no mistake.

Only the current examples. There's also eminent domain and who knows what over the horizon. My point is not to get bogged down in only one issue as the democrats have done.

18 posted on 07/21/2005 6:16:46 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I think she's wrong on this one. Roberts is a good choice. Bush comes through again!


19 posted on 07/21/2005 6:17:25 AM PDT by loreldan
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Coulter was wrong. Her column about Roberts had to be the worst one she's written....
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Barring another Souter tragedy, I too think Ann was overreacting here. On balance, I think alot of TRUE conservatives are very concerned about many of Bush's actions and positions, I for one, and we are on edge a bit. The border situation, the ramrodding of free trade (CAFTA), major cases in point.


20 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:21 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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