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BBC: Man shot dead by police on Tube ~~ Witness sees a bomb belt
BBC ^ | Friday, 22 July, 2005, 14:25 GMT 15:25 UK | staff

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:55:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Man shot dead by police on Tube

Stockwell Tube station

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around the station

A man has been shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station in south London, as officers hunt four bombing suspects.

Police are also searching an address in London's Harrow Road. Resident Patricia Osbourne said she heard six shots.

Scotland Yard said the raid was one of several taking place in the city after Thursday's attempted bombings.

BBC correspondent Danny Shaw said there were unconfirmed reports police had said the man shot at Stockwell was the Oval bomb suspect.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen a man of Asian appearance shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.

They pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him

Witness Mark Whitby


BBC correspondent Graham Satchell, at the Harrow Road incident, said the focus of the large police presence appeared to be an internet cafe.

As well as armed officers in body armour, there were about seven police vehicles and an ambulance, he said.

People in the area were "nervous", he added.

Station evacuated

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around Stockwell station. The incident followed four attempted bombings in the capital on Thursday at Oval, Warren Street, Shepherd's Bush stations and on a bus in Shoreditch in east London.

Passengers were evacuated from Stockwell station, which is on the Northern Line and Victoria Line.

Teams of forensic officers are working inside the station, and police helicopters are hovering overhead.

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines were suspended following a request by the police.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper.

"I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down!'

"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

'Bomb belt'

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he is dead," he said.

BBC Home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said officers had challenged a known suspect they had been following.

"He ran, they followed him. They say they gave him a warning, they then shot him.

"They brought in the air ambulance. They did everything they can to revive him. He died at the scene."

Police had warned they would shoot to kill if they believed somebody to be a threat, she added.

BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said the suspect was being followed as a result of CCTV footage seen by officers investigating Thursday's explosions.

It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead


Muslim Council of Britain

The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

Spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: "There may well be reasons why the police felt it necessary to unload five shots into the man and shoot him dead, but they need to make those reasons clear.

"It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead."

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

"I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.

"People were panicking and I heard shots being fired."

The man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door

Passenger Dan Copeland

Former Flying Squad officer, John O'Connor, told BBC News: "The man shot must either be one of the bombers or a potential suicide bomber."

Bombers "don't always carry sports bags" and the man could easily have been wearing a bomb belt, he added.

If he had been challenged by police and failed to stop they "have not got a lot of alternative", Mr O'Connor told BBC News.

Officers would be trained to aim for the head as shots to the torso could trigger a hidden explosive device, he added.

Londoner Dan Copeland was in the carriage in which the man was shot.

He told BBC News: "We were sitting for a few minutes on the platform, then we heard shouting from the concourse between the two platforms.

I worry about travelling on public transport. We have just got to get on with life

Commuter


"Then the man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door, diagonally opposite me.

"An officer jumped on the door to my left and screamed, 'Everybody out!'

"People just froze in their seats cowering for a few seconds and then leapt up.

"As I turned out the door onto the platform, I heard four dull bangs.

"I ran past an armed officer who was standing on the platform and ran up the stairs."

The bus driver found a rucksack split open on the top deck



After Thursday's London blasts, the bombers fled when detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

A massive hunt is under way for the men. Analysts believe evidence from the four scenes could throw light onto the bomb attacks carried out on 7 July.

The attempted attacks caused travel chaos across the capital, with several lines closed and Tube stations evacuated.

Scotland Yard commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the attacks had been intended to kill people.

1: Witnesses report seeing up to 20 plain clothes police officers chase a man into Stockwell Tube station from the street

2: One person says the man vaulted the automatic ticket barriers as he made his way to the platforms

3: The most direct route is via this escalator or the staircase that sits alongside it

4: After running onto a northbound Northern line train, he is shot dead by police



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

"I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.

1 posted on 07/22/2005 7:55:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This has been covered already perhaps 4 hours ago now


2 posted on 07/22/2005 7:56:17 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1448194/posts


3 posted on 07/22/2005 7:56:50 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Coflicting reports? The police said before they found NO EXPLOSIVES on the guy?


4 posted on 07/22/2005 7:56:53 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds like a good kill, but would have been better if they got him alive. They could bring him to one of the dungeons and get medieval on his a$$ til he spills the beans.


5 posted on 07/22/2005 7:58:12 AM PDT by HKaddict
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To: Kelly_2000

It's a BBC summary report broadcast to the world!


6 posted on 07/22/2005 7:59:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Savage said it best yesterday. If these bombers were in the US, they would have been beaten to death by US civilians. The Brits(Londoners) just stood around(with a stiff upper lip) and did nothing after their bombs fizzled.

If this happened in the suburbs of London, these bombers would have been killed by the Brits. Londoners are a lost liberal cause.


7 posted on 07/22/2005 7:59:07 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him

They neede to be sure!

8 posted on 07/22/2005 7:59:08 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: "There may well be reasons why the police felt it necessary to unload five shots into the man and shoot him dead, but they need to make those reasons clear.

What a moron. How about this for clear reasons...the guy ignored warnings to stop, he ran from the police, he jumped a turnstile to get to the tube the day after a failed attempt to bomb the tube, a week after a successful attempt to bomb the tube while being one of th suspects for the attempt yesterday.

10 posted on 07/22/2005 8:01:02 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good shooting. Fleeing police officers who issue a warning is good enough for me.


11 posted on 07/22/2005 8:01:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It's a BBC summary report broadcast to the world!"

It's also wrong the latest news is on Sky news BBC is always last to get the updates

12 posted on 07/22/2005 8:01:52 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: mlbford2
If these bombers were in the US, they would have been beaten to death by US civilians. The Brits(Londoners) just stood around(with a stiff upper lip) and did nothing after their bombs fizzled.

Really. All those bystanders and they just let them walk away? I realize the situation must have been chaotic, but found this really disturbing.

13 posted on 07/22/2005 8:02:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: highlander_UW

Not to mention that this chappie should be as unequivocal in his denounciation of the suicide bombers as he is about the cops reasons for shotting this festering turd of a human being.


14 posted on 07/22/2005 8:03:49 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pretty brave of the officers! Potentially known BOMB suspect, chase him down, and pile on top of him. Put 5 shots into him hoping the possible switch is not a "dead-man" type. I had no idea the Brits had such folk on the constabulary. SAS and SBS are some of the most formidible troops on the planet, but ya just think of a "Bobby" as kindly with the little hat and truncheon.


Good job guys! Get the intel, make'em pay!

Top sends


15 posted on 07/22/2005 8:03:53 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Observations:

1. Could be "suicide by cop" designed to hurt law inforcement in the future, especially if known that orders are shoot to kill.

2. The report of 5 shots might include echoes.


16 posted on 07/22/2005 8:04:15 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mlbford2
"If these bombers were in the US, they would have been beaten to death by US civilians. The Brits(Londoners) just stood around(with a stiff upper lip) and did nothing after their bombs fizzled. "

Actually I think they gave chase but he evaded them in one of the incidents. In another the witness thought he was a civilian innocent bystander. I would definitely blame that guy for being dumb and for not tackling him when he realized.

17 posted on 07/22/2005 8:05:27 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So... does he STILL get the virgins?


18 posted on 07/22/2005 8:05:51 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Darn for a second I thought it said "BBC man shot dead by police" not "BBC: Man shot dead by police". Big difference.
19 posted on 07/22/2005 8:07:25 AM PDT by austinite
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To: petro45acp

Anti-terror cops in the UK are taught Close Quarter Battle tactics (ie what those guys just did) by the SAS. So either way what you are looking at there is standard SAS CQB stuff.


20 posted on 07/22/2005 8:07:25 AM PDT by bernie_g
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