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NYers to NYPD: 'I Do Not Consent to Being Searched'
The Village Voice ^
| July 21st, 200
| by Chisun Lee
Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by BigFinn
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To: muleskinner
How about start training a bunch of bomb-sniffing dogs? Park a couple, with handlers, at every entrance to the subway, or any other pinch-point.Actually that is a good idea and one everyone would like and support and makes the most sense.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: BigFinn
You people aren't thinking. Picture a cop, faced with a 'suspicious' looking Middle Easterner. If he stops him and he's clean, the cop faces a complaint; if he
isn't clean, he explodes.
The cops are going to be searching a lot of grannies.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:29:40 AM PDT
by
Grut
To: gdani
Listen to the cops on TV. They come right out and say it -- the most important thing is for people to feel safe.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:29:59 AM PDT
by
johnb838
(Dominus Vobiscum; Saeculum saeculorum; Amen.)
To: Sonny M
New York City has large populations of Hispanics and Southern Europeans (Italians, Greeks, Jews, etc.), some of whom resemble Middle Easterners. Additionally, there are many Black Muslims among the city's large African American population, as well as substantial numbers of South and Southeast Asians, some of whom are Muslim. Other than the Northern European (Irish, British, German, etc.) and Northeast Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) minorities, the rest of the Big Apple's population could be profiled. Profiling on race alone may not work there.
To: kellynla
yea, well unlike most of you crybabies, I actually fought commies in combat and if you ladies have a problem opening your bags to the cops before getting on the subway you can walk Did you also take an oath to defend the Constitution against All Enemies Foreign and Domestic?
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:30:43 AM PDT
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: siunevada
Do they have any thoughts on more effective tactics? Perhaps they need to express those thoughts to their commanders.Probably, I've heard some of them talk about what they wanted to do after the london attacks, I don't know what them and their captains, or other guys in the brass said.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:30:48 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Sonny M
As a former New Yorker, I would consent to the search without hesitation. But I would raise holy hell if I saw ONE person with a bag getting a free pass while that search was going on. If they're going to search, search 'em all.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:31:04 AM PDT
by
Roccus
(The collective has started.)
To: savedbygrace
If your respect for the Constitution is so low that you consider anyone who stands up for it a moonbat, then you're . . . Oooh, aren't we testy!
The MOONBAT refers to anyone stupid enough to wear a T-Shirt that's "in your face" to cops that are probably a bit annoyed anyway.
As for unconstitutional, I doubt it. There's no constitutional right to get on a subway, therefore those who ride are subject to whatever security those who own it dream up.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:31:50 AM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
To: Oberon
Quote: "If you have done nothing wrong, comrade, then you have nothing to fear."
- Lavrenti Pavlovich Beria (1899 - 1953), chief of the Soviet Secret Police (NKVD) under Stalin.
Needs to be repeated
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:31:52 AM PDT
by
superiorslots
(Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
To: BigFinn
The other side of the shirt says:
"Unless, of course, it's a cavity search."
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:32:05 AM PDT
by
pke
To: American_Centurion
If they were true patriots and really did their job in the best interests of the public, they and their unions would protest vehemently against such orders. But they "just follow" them no matter how draconian the orders are. They'll probably do the same when ordered to do a little ethnic cleansing, I'm sure.I guess your farmiliar with the NYPD quota policy.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:32:14 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: kellynla
if ya have nothin' to hide; then ya have no reason to object... Bravo Sierra
As it is, we law-abiding citizens barely have any 4th Amendment protections, and here you are, in a conservative forum, no less, advocating pitching them all away, entirely. Just what the hell do you think we're fighting this war for---for the benefit of living in a police state?
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom--go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!
--Samuel Adams
To: kellynla
if ya have nothin' to hide; then ya have no reason to object... If you have nothing to hide; then ya have no life ...
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:32:53 AM PDT
by
Stu Cohen
(Press '1' for English)
To: BigFinn
Although police promised they would not engage in racial profilingWhich is to say, "we will not be searching mideasterner looking people".
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:06 AM PDT
by
taxesareforever
(Government is running amuck)
To: AdamSelene235
If you've flown you've seen it at the airport too. Last time the statzpoli (screener) scrutinized my papers for so long I started to sweat. And that was just going from St. Louis to Houston. I said right then I wasn't flying any more if I could help it.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:26 AM PDT
by
johnb838
(Dominus Vobiscum; Saeculum saeculorum; Amen.)
To: SandyInSeattle
I had to ride the NYC subway today, and I vowed that I would
not consent to be searched under any circumstances. In fact, if I were turned away and wasn't permitted to get on the train, then it was my intent to come back to my office, submit my resignation, and go work somewhere else.
It's one thing to search people at random in the name of public safety, but it is grossly unacceptable in a place where law-abiding citizens aren't even allowed to carry firearms for their own protection.
"Public safety," my @ss.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:36 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
To: BigFinn
Believing in the 4th amendment to the United States Constitution hardly puts one on the "left."
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:41 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
To: superiorslots
Quote: "If you have done nothing wrong, comrade, then you have nothing to fear." - Lavrenti Pavlovich Beria (1899 - 1953), chief of the Soviet Secret Police (NKVD) under Stalin. As requested :>)
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:44 AM PDT
by
beltfed308
(Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
To: BigFinn
FINE! Then you can go to jail instead of your job .. and then you get to explain to your boss your lack of concern for your job and your idiocy at refusing to have your bag searched.
Typical liberals .. me me me me me .. to hell with the employer who is expecting you to show up for work that day.
The liberals have no VISION for tomorrow - they live only in the present.
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posted on
07/22/2005 11:33:47 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: Restorer
For the purposes of comparison, how much does a bomb-sniffing human cost?
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