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Man shot dead by police in London may have been Brazilian
BBC News ^ | 7/23/05

Posted on 07/23/2005 1:32:06 PM PDT by areafiftyone

A man shot dead by police in London was not connected to Thursday's attacks and may have been Brazilian. More Soon...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: darwinaward; dontactliketerrorist; donthavebrownskin; dontrunfrompolice; londonattacked
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1 posted on 07/23/2005 1:32:06 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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Shot man not connected to bombing

A man shot dead by police hunting the bombers behind Thursday's London attacks was unconnected to the incidents, police have confirmed.

The man - thought to be Brazilian - died at Stockwell Tube in an incident Scotland Yard described as a "tragedy".

Two other men have been arrested and are being questioned after bombers targeted three Tube trains and a bus.

A suspect package found on Saturday in north-west London may be linked to Thursday's attacks, police believe.

The package was found by a member of the public in bushes in Little Wormwood Scrubs on Saturday morning.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "Explosives officers attended the scene. An initial examination suggests that the object may be linked to devices found at four locations in London on July 21."

Police said it would be subject to "detailed forensic analysis".

Police have also raided a house in Streatham Hill, south London, in connection with the failed attacks.

'Horrendous consequences'

Brazilian diplomats in London said they had been told by police that the man who was shot dead by police on Friday was a Brazilian.

An earlier Scotland Yard statement read: "We believe we now know the identity of the man shot at Stockwell Underground station by police on Friday 22nd July 2005, although he is still subject to formal identification.

"We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005.

"For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets."

The statement confirmed the man had been followed by police from a house in Tulse Hill that was under surveillance.

His death is being investigated by officers from the MPS Directorate of Professional Standards, and will be referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

John O'Connor, former commander of the Met Police, told the BBC the consequences of the shooting were likely to be "quite horrendous".

He said he expected officers to face criminal charges, and other officers could even refuse to carry weapons.

But Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said it was too early to judge what the effects would be.

She called for a "prompt, comprehensive and independent investigation".

Arrests

Police announced on Saturday evening they have raided another property in south London.

Residents of the street in Streatham Hill, near Brixton, told how armed police ordered them to stay in their homes while they cordoned off the area.

There do not appear to have been any arrests.

Police arrested one man after a raid on a block of flats in Stockwell

Two men are still being held at Paddington Green police station, central London, in connection with Thursday's attacks.

The first man was arrested at around 1630 BST on Friday during a raid on a block of flats near to Oval and Stockwell Tube stations.

Eyewitnesses said he was led away with a woman and child.

The second man was arrested late on Friday night, also in the Stockwell area.

Both are being held under anti-terrorism legislation which gives police 14 days before they have to bring charges.

Scotland Yard said they had been contacted by over 500 members of the public following the release of CCTV footage of four suspects.

Detectives said they were hopeful of useful lines of inquiry coming from the calls and e-mails.

Three devices found after the failed bombings were the same size and weight as those used in the suicide attacks of 7 July, which killed scores.

The fourth was smaller, apparently contained in a plastic box. The same chemicals appear to have been used.

They targeted Oval, Warren Street and Shepherd's Bush stations and a bus in Hackney.

The Hammersmith and City line train was removed from Shepherd's Bush station on Saturday afternoon.

Transport for London said it hoped to have trains running on the line from Paddington to Hammersmith on Saturday evening

2 posted on 07/23/2005 1:36:06 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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?...The British police got the right man at the wrong time?


3 posted on 07/23/2005 1:36:47 PM PDT by maestro
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Turns out this guy they shot was the wrong guy and innocent. But the guy they arrested was the right one. Confusing.


4 posted on 07/23/2005 1:37:42 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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..... The statement confirmed the man had been followed by police from a house in Tulse Hill that was under surveillance. .....

/OFF.....MS-13

5 posted on 07/23/2005 1:40:04 PM PDT by maestro
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Damn! I thought all the Brazilians were here in Massachusetts.


6 posted on 07/23/2005 1:40:10 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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No, I think it was the wrong man at the right time.

Why the heck was this guy fleeing the police in the way that he did? there is still something very fishy about this Brazilian story?

Oh, my God! I know! He was the "BRAZILIAN RUNAWAY GROOM!"


7 posted on 07/23/2005 1:41:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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Where does it say why they shot the Brazilian? What was the motivation? Did the Brazilian do something suspicious, was it a language problem, what?

27yo Brazilian National going to work as an electrician, according to Fox News right now.

8 posted on 07/23/2005 1:41:45 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Loyalty)
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This is the worst possible turn of events. Now the British will look inward to see how they have failed. The cops will be the bad guys. The terrorists will be the ones wrongfully pursued.

Cops will be more cautious. Becoming even more PC will be the outcome.

9 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Typical BBC -- where's their continuity? They reported SY had been tracking suspect all morning -- exits apartment, gets on a bus, gets off near a station, then enters the station and hops the barriers in an act of fare-jumping with 4 or 5 LEOs in full chase. Something's not right with either one of their stories.
10 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:36 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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Damn! I thought all the Brazilians were here in Massachusetts.

Nah, there's tons of them at Disney World.

11 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:43 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Loyalty)
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....Turns out this guy they shot was the wrong guy and innocent. But the guy they arrested was the right one. Confusing. ....

Confusing.....'operation'.....sounds 'normal' to me!

it's called. 'Black on Black!~'

12 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:49 PM PDT by maestro
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Well maybe he was an illegal alien and didn't want to get caught and deported. Just a guess.


13 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:55 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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More details are supposed to come out. But if they notified the Brazilian government and offered and apology and are having an investigation - this does not look good for them.


14 posted on 07/23/2005 1:44:24 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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He's still a "Darwin Award" candidate for running from the cops.


15 posted on 07/23/2005 1:44:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I'm going to look for more info from another site since this is the BBC and they are the PC site.


16 posted on 07/23/2005 1:45:30 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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This is similar to the Diallo killing here in NYC, where an (illegal) African immigrant ran from cops, refused to stop, refused to id himself, and made a sudden gesture which triggred a volley of shots from the police, who had been looking for a rape suspect whose description Diallo fit.

Apparently in thirdworldland you're taught to run from cops, and not obey orders to halt. A case where cultural "diversity" is deadly.

18 posted on 07/23/2005 1:46:31 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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He said he expected officers to face criminal charges, and other officers could even refuse to carry weapons.

If either of these things happens, then that will be the no-turning-back point for Britain. You might as well just put giant "BOMB US PLEASE!" signs at every entrance to the country.

The only lesson to be learned here is "Don't run away as fast as you can when the police tell you to stop."

19 posted on 07/23/2005 1:46:33 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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He ran from the police during a very dangerous time. Darwin's Theorem in progress. The police called for him to stop and threatened him with deadly force before they shot him. Kudos to the London Police.
20 posted on 07/23/2005 1:46:37 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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