John Kerr and Mitzi Gaynor, South Pacific
Posted on 07/24/2005 1:27:52 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
You’d probably think there’s no connection between the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, “South Pacific” in 1949 and the murdering Muslims of the 21st century. If you thought that, you’d be wrong. That musical explains these events.
The most obscure song from that musical is, “You’ve Got to be Carefully Taught.” It’s low popularity is probably due to its dark subject, the injection of prejudice into the minds of children.
Here are two of its verses, which make the point:
You've got to be taught to hate and fear
You've got to be taught from year to year
It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught before it's too late
Before you are six or seven or eight
To hate all the people your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
I’ve read translations of lessons taught in Islamic schools in Pakistan, England, Indonesia, North Korea, the Palestinian Authority, and in many of the United Nations refugee camps around the world. Children are taught that Jews especially, but infidels in general, are subhuman at worst, expendable lesser humans at most. They are taught it is their “moral” duty to dominate such other people, and to kill them as necessary.
Is this the first time in human history that adults deliberately chose to pour intellectual poison into young minds, year after year, and generation after generation? The Hitler Youth and the Nazi schools taught such hatred, but they survived only one generation. The Young Communist League and the Soviet schools lasted for three generations. Miraculously, when the Soviet Union fell, most citizens somehow had learned the opposite of the prejudices they’d been taught.
For those who want to see pictures of this process, evidence of the success of teaching young children to become suicidal murderers, just Google images for “children” and “bombers.” You will see your choice of dozens of demonstration where adults and parents have dressed children in make-believe suicide belts. The children are showing off their “toys” with pleasure. This is visual evidence of what is going on in the schools. You can also find translated quotations from the schools and the mosques, if you work at it.
So, when you read superficial comments from so-called experts about the “root causes” of the suicide bombers, you will know that most of what you read is false. The 3,000 murders in the US on 9/11 were not caused by the invasion of Iraq, because we didn’t invade Iraq until after that date. But neither were the bombings in England this month caused by the invasion of Iraq.
The terrorists have a steady pool of young men, and some women, who’ve been taught all their lives that murdering other human beings and committing suicide are morally good acts. They have been carefully taught.
An Associated Press article filed from England on 16 July, demonstrates this fact. "You could see how it could turn someone to raw hate," said Ali, recalling his brush last year with the hard-edged marketing of extremism at an Islamic bookstore operated by his brother-in-law. "It even started working on me. Then I said to myself, `Get out. This stuff is poison.'"
The problem is growing. When Pakistan became independent in 1947 it had only 137 madrassahs. Government sources put today's figure at 13,000, with enrolment close to 1.7 million.
Those vicious lessons have been reinforced in these young people by supposed moral leaders in their sermons, preaching the same doctrine to adults. There is a vast gulf between what representatives of some Islamic nations say in English to the US diplomats and to us on TV, and what they say to themselves in their institutions that breed bigotry and murder.
This is the major reasons the low-grade World War IV, which we’re now in, will not tail off and end for up to a generation. Until all of these nations are persuaded by common sense, or force, to shut down their factories for producing murderers, the source of new murderers will remain. And it will also remain in some respects for up to thirty years after the factories close because those minds are already poisoned.
Leadership in those nations can play a decisive, positive role, like the Emperor of Japan did after World War II. He told his people they had a moral duty to cease fighting and to acquiesce to the changes under General MacArthur. But leadership like that is too much to ask. Merely shutting down the murder factories will, in time, be enough.
About the Author: John Armor is a First Amendment attorney and author who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu
Conversely, children have to be taught the philosophy of "Creator-endowed life, liberty and unalienable individual rights" and of the "laws of Nature and of Nature's God" that expand liberty and allow for the "pursuit of Happiness" in order to enjoy the "blessings of liberty" protected by their Constitution.
Sadly, for decades now, we have failed to pass on the ideas of liberty in our publicly-supported schools, and now we are threatened by the offspring of parents whose children have been brainwashed in the ideas of hate, tyranny, and oppression.
Ideas have consequences! (Weaver)
As Americans, we must articulate the underlying philosophy that made America a beacon for liberty to the oppressed from all over the world.
On July 4, 1821, John Quincy Adams said of our Declaration of Independence:
"It was the first solemn declaration by a nation of the only legitimate foundation of civil government. It was the corner stone of a new fabric. . . .It demolished at a stroke the lawfulness of all governments founded upon conquest. It swept away all the rubbish of accumulated centuries of servitude. It announced in practical form to the world the transcendent truth of the unalienable sovereignty of the people. It proved that the social compact was no figment of the imagination; but a real, solid, and sacred bond of the social union.
"It stands, and must forever stand, alone, a beacon on the summit of the mountain, to which all the inhabitants of the earth may turn their eyes. . . .It stands for ever, a light of admonition to the rulers of men, a light of salvation and redemption to the oppressed. . . .[as the delineation of] the boundaries of their respective rights and duties, founded in the laws of nature, and of nature's God."
President Lincoln put it another, but equally powerful, way:
"Most governments have been based practically, on the denial of the rights of men. Ours began by affirming those rights....[These opposing ideas] are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle. . . .It [the denial of individual rights] is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself....it is the same tyrannical principle."
How true! Today, the shape of the "tyrannical principle" takes one form. In other times, it has taken on different forms. We, our children and grandchildren are in a battle of ideas. Are we armed to articulate the ideas that must oppose tyranny, or have our years of neglect effectively "erased" them from our national memory?
Lincoln, again, can be consulted:
". . . it is no child's play to save the principles of Jefferson from total overthrow in this nation. . . .The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society. . . . And yet, they are denied, and evaded, with no small show of success. . . .All honor to Jefferson--to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce into a . . . revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that today, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers [initiators of threatening change] of reappearing tyranny and oppression."
Another verse of that song: "You've got to be taught to be afraid, of people whose eyes are differently made, of people whose skin is a differnt shade, you've got to be carefully taught."
Islam is a Death Cult.
Not a Religion. We need to start immediately deporting all Muslims. If, they are Muslim they have been taught hate and they believe it.
Generally good, BUT I really doubt that you ever read (as you say you did) translations of Islamic textbooks from North Korea. They do not have any muslims in North Korea. They have no Christians left, either, except some actors and security people playing the role for visitors, and gullible celebrities like Billy Graham.
I've been married for 35 years and I have never been accepted into my wife's family. I am Irish.
They are all Demoncrats.
Got an email from a friend in Afghanistan who wrote, "Been humming an Eric Bogle song lately...he wrote the song "What Kind of Man is He?" back in the late 80s.
He does write powerful lyrics. As I recall they went like this:"
What kind of man is he,
And which cause did he use
When he placed the bomb,
When he set the fuse?
Did he walk away
Crying, "liberty!"
And, if he did,
What kind of man is he?
Did he sleep well that night,
Wrapped in the dying's last screams?
Did no bloody ghosts
Walk through his dreams?
Does he shed innocent blood
As part of a grand strategy,
And, if he does,
What kind of man is he?
For all the tears of mourning,
For those you've maimed and killed,
For all the murdered children,
God damn your soul to hell!
Is he a family man?
Does he have any kids?
Will they ever understand
What their father did?
Does he use noble words
Like "freedom from tyranny"
And, if he does,
What kind of man is he?
Are you out there tonight
Wearin' your every man's face?
Do you still think of yourself
As part of the human race,
In spite of all the murders you've done
And the killing you've yet to do?
And that's why I ask,
"What kind of man are you?"
For all the tears of mourning,
For those you've maimed and killed,
For all the murdered children,
God d*** your soul to hell!
From Gethsemane to Auschwitz
The man with the gun
Has stood between us
And what we could have become.
Shall we be dragged back once again
Into barbarity?
If we let them do that
What kind of men are we?
If we let them do that
What kind of men are we?
That used to happen with some of the edgier songs. I believe "Officer Krupke" from West Side Story was likewise changed. I believe the stage song has a line like "my grandma pushes tea" but the movie does not.
TS
And other men with guns stand between us and him.
This will be a very long war. It has been a very long war. It started 1300 years ago.But now our oceans do not insulate us from the destruction. This phase of the war, at least, will be shortened greatly when we release the prisoners and withdraw from the Moslem lands.
When that happens the reaction from the Moslems will quickly convince the whole people that it is a war for survival. Whichever party holds the white house, America will truly fight back and nukes will be involved. I expect nukes much sooner from Democrats than from Republicans because they have never been able to see the problem and will react like a betrayed lobver. The war then will lead quickly to a great reduction in Islam and probably a totalitarian US, whichever party is in power.
The problem with the lyrics is that they are just not true. I think people have a natural tendency to dislike and even hate groups of people who are noticeably different, especially when they have had bad experiences with members of those groups.South Pacific was an early and fairly subdued shot from Hollywood in the multicultural war against the West . The sentiments it pushed and the people who pushed them are at least as reponsible for London and New York as anything taught in a Madrassa.I think it is much more accurate to say that children need to be taught not to hate. Anybody who has ever watched a playground full of children will quickly spot the outcasts and scapegoats. Nobody had to teach those children to turn on those who didn't fit in.
12 posted on 07/24/2005 6:59:01 PM EDT by Restorer
Add in the perspective shift which Christianity has undergone in the past two centuries . . . Thomas Sowell points out that before the American Revolution there is no history of anyone opposing slavery as an institution, on principle. Christians had slaves, for example, long before Africans were sold into slavery in the South.It was only after the American Revolution that there was any moral taint to slavery; there was no literature attempting to defend slavery before the runup to the Civil War because the institution had not previously been under attack as unchristian. But Christendom changed (coalescing into nation states too powerful to mess with for profit by slavers) and then Christianity changed. And because Christianity changed, it became hostile to the institution of slavery - with the result that the British Navy was tasked with keeping a squadron of warships off the west coast of Africa to suppress the slave trade. And of course we had the Civil War here.
But slavery was prevalent worldwide, until European (Chrisitan) colonialism in general (and the British Empire in particular) delegitimated it. So, essentially, multiculturalism is the "better" which is the enemy of Christianity, which is merely (in that sense) "good enough."
The problem is growing. When Pakistan became independent in 1947 it had only 137 madrassahs. Government sources put today's figure at 13,000, with enrolment close to 1.7 million.
Those vicious lessons have been reinforced in these young people by supposed moral leaders in their sermons, preaching the same doctrine to adults. There is a vast gulf between what representatives of some Islamic nations say in English to the US diplomats and to us on TV, and what they say to themselves in their institutions that breed bigotry and murder.
Important stuff...
I don't know about that. There were plenty of Japanese wives of American servicemen about that time, and a few years later many Korean wives. Polynesians were likely more acceptable than either of those two groups. Many Navy and Army men had married Hawaiian girls, and Hawaiians are an offshoot of the Polynesians. Furthermore, the Polynesians had not recently been the enemy.
"You’ve Got to be Carefully Taught" -- I remember that! Mark Fuhrman sang it in the movie. ;)
Seriously, we had to sing it in junior high school in the '60s, along with other pop cultural favorites like Kum-ba-ya and Blowin' In The Wind. School was a nest of lefties even back then.
John Kerr and Mitzi Gaynor, South Pacific
save for later, but...
Passive solutions will not work.
The MSM downplays Sirhan Sirhan's killing of RFK. Their hatred of us goes long before any of the Gulf Wars,
You touch on a good point, the depth of hatred held by the "true believers". New Republic, a surisingly honest liberal rag, August 8 issue has an article by Peter Scoblic on th inadequacy of current US response to nuclear threats. Democratizing the Middle East is a worthwhile goal, but hardly sufficient for our immediate defense.
As we see with the insurgent minority's attacks, only a dedicated minority need stay active to yield very real results numbered in coffins. Imagine a successful placement of a "suitcase" Hiroshima sized bomb in a major American city.
Six figure death toll, seven figure casualties, headlong panic not only in the surrounding several hundred miles, but every comparable target city for years. Economic disaster any far beyond the direct damage. Who is going to show up for work in downtown LA or Chicago if Manhatten has just turned into a crater?
Retaliation or pre-emptive? We will have no geographically identifiable nation-state target to render into green glassine slag without murdering millions of innocents.
As pointed up in the NR article, we need to move from ideological response to technological. In short, diplomacy as practiced heretofore be damned, we declare that the very act of developing or obtaining by black market, a nuclear capability by an overtly "Death to America" regime shall henceforth be considered in and of itself an act of war justifying our pre-emptive military response; i.e. taking out your plant BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY before it yields a useable weapon.
Does anyone seriously doubt that if Iran comes into possession of nuclear weapons, such a weapon will eventually be used against us under the name of some multi-syllabic terrorist group witout a return address? Bin Laden is where despite a $25 million reward?
We are several years too late in North Korea, I accept as given they have in hand nukes. We can hope that Kim's paranoia will hold that to defense of his regime. In that arena, China does not like a nuclear neighbor any better than we do, and come crunch time, I believe China will act to constrain that capability's use to the extent they can, with more effect than we can muster.
As to Iran, take out their identifiable plants, if they bitch about it, tough. As to "World Opinion", John Bolton is just the man to invite the UN to start packing for Geneva.
The primary duty of the American Government is to "protect [us] from all threats, foreign or domestic". The old saw about "use it or lose it". has never been more applicable
That wasn't the only line changed - the very last line of the song was changed to "Gee Officer Krupke - Krup you!"
The original line was "Gee Officer Krupke - F**k you!"
Gee, Office Krupke - I wonder why they changed it?
That line was actually used on the Broadway stage? Sounds more like either urban legend or wishing thinking before the show opened.
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