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Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush
Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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To: Quilla

Thanks.


201 posted on 07/26/2005 9:09:50 AM PDT by Peach
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To: aculeus

Johnson may have leaked top secret information when he went after that freeper.


202 posted on 07/26/2005 9:10:42 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Howlin

He did, but the thread was pulled.


203 posted on 07/26/2005 9:11:02 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: mware

It seems to me if little Larry is so upset with a freeper that he e-mails said freeper, then Larry's entitlement to privacy is gone.

I have Larry's e-mail if anyone would like it; just let me know and I'll freepmail it to you.


204 posted on 07/26/2005 9:11:18 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

I wonder if Chuck Schumer knows that his new-found friends at VIPS are blaming the Iraq war on Jews?


205 posted on 07/26/2005 9:11:23 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Sam Hill
Is there something about delusional tunnel-visionists that makes them good intelligence analysts?

We desperately need that "Men in Black" memory thingie...

206 posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:09 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Peach

Peach I would advise against it. You could contact the CIA since he worked there at one time


207 posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:27 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Sam Hill

Do not post personal information.


208 posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Peach
It seems to me if little Larry is so upset with a freeper that he e-mails said freeper, then Larry's entitlement to privacy is gone.

Exactly.

209 posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:47 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Well, that's a fascinatin' tittle article! More and more this whole Rove/Plame affair looks like a season of '24'; rogue CIA agents out to cover up their own incompetence in understanding the terrorist threat to the country. Their allegiance is not to the USA but to merely saving their own sorry butts.


210 posted on 07/26/2005 9:13:05 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Howlin
From your link:

Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism. None of these beliefs are based in fact. (emphasis added)

Interesting how this spin was countered by the very terrorism that he denied existed!

Ironically enough at the same time Congressman Dana Rohabacher (R-CA) was investigating terrorism and on 9-11-2001 he was on his way to an appointment with some politicians in Washington DC to brief them on the dangers of Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaida. Before the set time for the meeting the towers were brought down.

211 posted on 07/26/2005 9:13:45 AM PDT by Syncro (Recant, rescind, retract and repudiate....Got Truth?)
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To: Howlin

Plus, I think emails are the property of the receiver, not the sender.


212 posted on 07/26/2005 9:13:47 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: Howlin

Larry Johnson is a dangerous bozo. I well remember reading that op-ed of his on July 10, 2001 and thinking that all it would take is one big attack to blow his analysis to pieces. His whole message pre-9/11 was "don't worry, little people, there is no terrorist threat" ala Michael Moore. Amazing that any media outlets can still present Larry Johnson as a credible figure, but then they still think Dan Rather, Howell Raines, et al are respectable figures....


213 posted on 07/26/2005 9:14:46 AM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Okay.

But it's been posted numerous times on several threads.

Johnson has made no secret of his email address, as you can see by Googling.


214 posted on 07/26/2005 9:14:53 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: 6SJ7

Ain't the internet grand?


215 posted on 07/26/2005 9:15:12 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Redact the personal info from the text and post with a disclaimer as to why?


216 posted on 07/26/2005 9:15:14 AM PDT by debg
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To: Syncro

I am moving further and further into the "This was/is an attempted coup" column.


217 posted on 07/26/2005 9:15:56 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: mware

I'll do it anonymously from the library. I have to go that way later today anyway to get some stuff for the gc who are visiting.


218 posted on 07/26/2005 9:16:09 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

It's been very clearly established by the courts that email belongs to the person who receives it. So Mad Mammoth can do whatever he pleases with that email.

And, as I said to the moderator, Johnson has posted his email address on the internet. But I don't make the rules, and I'm happy to follow them.

But this is quite a story. It would be a shame to bury it.


219 posted on 07/26/2005 9:17:11 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: pbrown

Only if Congress is going to actually try traitors.


220 posted on 07/26/2005 9:17:14 AM PDT by weegee (If HATE is not a family value, then CHILD ABUSE (i.e. abortion) is not a choice.)
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