Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush

Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

[Sam Hill]

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

[Mo1]

This was a set up

[Paulus Invictus]

There went his credibility forever! Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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May I grab your post 393?

[Sam Hill]

January 13, 2003 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Generals, National Security Leaders Campaign for John Kerry This Week in New Hampshire Terrorism Experts, Military Leaders, Diplomats, Veterans Tout Kerry

MANCHESTER, NH – John Kerry’s Presidential Campaign announced today that United States Generals, national security experts, and veterans will be campaigning throughout this week in New Hampshire for Kerry. Lt. General Claudia Kennedy (Ret.), Brigadier General Stephen Cheney (Ret.), Former Assistant Secretary of State Rand Beers, Former Ambassador Joe Wilson, Governor Jeanne Shaheen, foreign policy expert Nancy Stetson and dozens of veterans will lead a three-day campaign swing in New Hampshire, because they believe John Kerry is the best candidate to take on George Bush on national security issues.

Ambassador Joe Wilson served a distinguished career as a diplomat for more than twenty years. He was the acting U.S. ambassador in Iraq during Operation Desert Shield and the last U.S. official to meet with Saddam Hussein before the first Gulf War. He was assigned in 2002 by Vice President Dick Cheney to investigate claims that Iraq was trying to buy Uranium for Niger."

http://www.politicsus.com/011304cjk.htm Nice to see that Wilson was lying about Cheney even way back then.

[Howlin]

Check this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450548/posts?page=393#393

[Lori675]

I thought at first you were talking about Larry Johnson the former Knick and Hornett. lol

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Well (as I check to make sure my tinfoil beanie is firmly placed), Cooper's wife works for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Hillary gave her a baby shower!

[Howlin]

I'm right with you.

[nuffsenuff]

Was Plame there?

I wouldn't doubt it.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Sam, You're alright!

[understatement of the day!]

[dinasour]

This was a set up

And from the very beginning.

Didn't Wilson say something at the 9-11 hearing implying that he knew about the forgery when he went to Niger, even though he couldn't have known that at that time?

Maybe he knew all about the forgery well before he went there.

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Was Plame there?

What I would give to know the answer to that question. I might start digging around in my files and see what I can find on it.

[nuffsenuff]

Yup.

[Mo1]

????

Both sides twist and hype the case of a CIA agent’s leaked identity. We document what’s known so far.
July 22, 2005 .... Modified: July 22, 2005

[Sam Hill]

So Wilson was actively campaigning for Kerry even before Bush gave his State Of The Union Address.

How is it that he didn't say anything about the "16 words" until five months later?

Was it that Kerry hadn't committed to him? Or had he just not thought up his Yellowcake story yet?

I suspect it was a little bit of both.

"Look, Joe, if you are going to be my Secretary Of State you have got to help me a helluva lot more. You've got to find a way to sex up the whole 'Bush Lied" thing." -- (creatively reconstructed) phone call from Kerry to Wilson, May 2003.

[nuffsenuff]

1999 – Joseph Wilson takes a trip to Niger at the behest of the CIA to investigate “uranium-related matters” separate from Iraq . (Wilson, Politics lv-lvi). According to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report on pre-war intelligence, Wilson “was selected for the 1999 trip after his wife mentioned to her supervisors that her husband was planning a business trip to Niger in the near future and might be willing to use his contacts in the region.”

[nuffsenuff]

1999. This is the first trip Wilson went on because his wife suggested it to her superiors.

Can you all say "Set up"?

[Freedom is eternally right]

Tried to post this before, but it was lost in cyberspace, so sorry if it shows up twice. Go read the thread (post 18). It is a typo. Sorry, wish I were wrong. My tinfoil theory is that when the prez landed on the aircraft carrier (May 1, 2003), the dems really did lose it and declared all out war on him. Off to get more Reynolds wrap.

[Fedora]

Unfortunately, the 2003 date there is a typo. If you scroll down that thread to Shermy's comment #14 and my follow-up at #42 there was some discussion of that; apparently Shermy had come across it before. The press release is actually referring to Kerry's campaigning New Hampshire during the 2004 primaries. The correct date is in the URL for the link and at the bottom of the release. Here's another link describing the same event with the correct date:

"Sen. John Kerry: New Hampshire Travel [calendar] 56 visits, 75 days

-Brigadier General Stephen Cheney, Secy. Rand Beers, Amb. Joe Wilson, and Nancy Stetson plan to host a national security forum at Kimball-Jenkins Estate in Concord, NH on January 14, 2004.

-Teresa Heinz Kerry is scheduled to campaign in NH on January 13, 2004. At noon she plans to lunch with social service advocates, joined by State Senator Sylvia Larson, at the home of MJ and Dan Viederman in Concord; and in the evening she plans to attend a house party at the home of Chris Canfield in Tamworth.

-Gov. Shaheen is scheduled to campaign in NH on January 12-13, 2004. On the morning of January 12 she and other Democratic leaders are scheduled to held "an important press conference" (criticizing Clark) at Kerry campaign's Manchester headquarters; early evening she plans to attend a house party at the home of Harry Sherer in Amherst. On January 13 at noon she plans a "Women’s Voices On the Trail" discussion with Lt General Claudia Kennedy at the YWCA in Manchester; and will watch the UNH vs. Dartmouth hockey game with undecided voters at Verizon Wireless Arena. "

[NEPA]

Howlin,

Please put me on your ping list.

Thanks,

Cathy