Posted on 07/28/2005 11:52:49 AM PDT by Pyro7480
Shot Brazilian had phoney visa, says Home Office
By Jenny Booth, Times Online
The student visa of Jean Charles de Menezes expired more than two years before he was shot by police, a Home Office spokeswoman said tonight.
The Government also issued a cautiously-worded statement which appeared to indicate that Mr de Menezes had a forged stamp in his passport.
The spokeswoman said: "Mr de Menzes ... applied for leave to remain as a student. This was approved on October 31, 2002, and he was granted leave to remain until June 30, 2003.
"We have no record of any further application or correspondence from Mr de Menezes.
"We have seen a copy of Mr de Menezes passport containing a stamp apparently giving him indefinite leave to remain in the UK.
"On investigation, this stamp was not one that was in use by the Immigration and Nationality Directorate on the date given."
Mr de Menezes, 27, a Brazilian national who was working in London as an electrician, was shot dead as ran aboard a northbound Tube train at Stockwell station. Shocked witnesses spoke of the expression of complete panic on his face as police undercover officers, who had trailed from his home in Tulse Hill several miles away under the mistaken belief that he was a suicide bomber, held him down and shot him.
Last night his family accused the police of changing their account of the incident. At first Scotland Yard said that Mr de Menezes had been wearing a heavy jacket despite the warm weather, and had refused to respond to a police challenge, vaulting over the ticket barrier in an apparent attempt to escape.
But his cousin told a press conference yesterday that senior officers at Scotland Yard had now retracted their claims that Mr de Menezes was acting suspiciously, so that officers had no option but to open fire.
Vivien Figueiredo, 22, said police told her that he was wearing a lightweight denim jacket and not a bulky coat that could have hidden an explosive belt underneath. They had also admitted that he used his travelcard to gain access to the station. Ms Figueiredo said: "They are saying he did absolutely nothing wrong when he was killed, so why dont they say all this publicly?"
Police shot the electrician seven times in the head and once in the shoulder at point-blank range. The family claims that Mr Menezess death forced Scotland Yard to change its shoot-to-kill orders. In yesterdays arrest in Birmingham, the family pointed out that police used a Taser stun gun. Speaking shortly before leaving for Brazil to take Mr Menezes's body home for burial, they said that they wanted to know why a similar weapon was not used last Friday.
Ms Figueiredo also expressed anger at reports that one of the officers involved in the fatal shooting had gone on holiday with his family, paid for by the Metropolitan Police. She said: "It is not right that this person should now be enjoying his holiday when we are suffering."
Alex Pereira, 27, another cousin accompanying the coffin on the flight home, said: "The officer must be brought back and show the world he did something wrong". Senior officers emphasised that the independent investigation into the incident was continuing.
Tomorrow the Stop the War Coalition will hold a vigil marking one week since Mr Menezess death, at 1730 BST in Parliament Square. A service will be held at Westminster Cathedral at the same time as his funeral in Brazil.
"The Taser was used because he was not an immediate threat to blow himself up."
I'm not sure what you're basing that on, considering the guy tasered was one of the guys who tried to blow himself up last week and was reportedly wearing a backpack when arrested.
The operative word is immediate. He apparently did not appear to have bombs strapped to him when arrested, the Brazilian looked like he did.
Yes, no-one would ever put a bomb in a backpack...
1. Illegal documents/visa.
2. Sends large sums of money home to his family (larger than known income)
3. An electrician by trade... Reportedly installing security alarms in London..
4. Seen either coming from the bombers house or lived there.
5. Running like hell from police.
Could it be he was working for the terrorist helping rig the bombs?
Added more info to #3
In the meantime, the scum terrorists arrested with bombs and bombing plans are being handled with kid gloves put in air conditioned cells with access to fire breathing imams who work hard converting other scum in prisons to their evil ideology. Aren't we so civilized and humane.
This one might interest you...
Yes, he thought la Migra was after him. If the word gets out that illegal aliens will be shot on sight (seven times no less) the problem will go away.
I've known some tough cops in my day but I don't think I have ever met one who could dump half a mag in some thugs skull, especially if there wasn't much physical resistance.
That is more the trait of a soldier who hasn't been taught how to subdue prisoners and one just recently back from hot combat, where blood and busted brains are an everyday sight.
I have a hunch that there is a lot more that will never come out.
The police did a damn-d bad investigation. Whoever said that this guy was a suspect should be fined or serve jailtime on probation for negligient murder.
Maybe it's because Islam has no Pope who can speak "Ex Cathedra" as a final voice on Islam doctrine.
Maybe that's why Wahabbism (sp?)continues to thrive and there's an unending line of suicide bombers.
Nobody to tell them to cut the cr*p.
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