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Salty dogma: Bono gives an explicit confession of being saved by Grace, not Karma
WORLD ^ | August 6, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 07/29/2005 5:11:57 AM PDT by rhema

Is Bono, the lead singer and songwriter for the rock group U2, a Christian? He says he is and writes about Christianity in his lyrics. Yet many people question whether Bono is "really" a Christian, due to his notoriously bad language, liberal politics, and rock star antics (though he has been faithfully married for 23 years). But in a new book of interviews, Bono in Conversation by Michka Assayas, Bono, though using some salty language, makes an explicit confession of faith.

The interviewer, Mr. Assayas, begins by asking Bono, Doesn't he think "appalling things" happen when people become religious? Bono counters, "It's a mind-blowing concept that the God who created the Universe might be looking for company, a real relationship with people, but the thing that keeps me on my knees is the difference between Grace and Karma."

The interviewer asks, What's that? "At the center of all religions is the idea of Karma. You know, what you put out comes back to you: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, or in physics—in physical laws—every action is met by an equal or an opposite one," explains Bono. "And yet, along comes this idea called Grace to upend all that. . . . Love interrupts, if you like, the consequences of your actions, which in my case is very good news indeed, because I've done a lot of stupid stuff."

The interviewer asks, Like what? "That's between me and God. But I'd be in big trouble if Karma was going to finally be my judge," says Bono. "It doesn't excuse my mistakes, but I'm holding out for Grace. I'm holding out that Jesus took my sins onto the Cross, because I know who I am, and I hope I don't have to depend on my own religiosity."

Then the interviewer marvels, "The Son of God who takes away the sins of the world. I wish I could believe in that."

"The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death," replies Bono. "It's not our own good works that get us through the gates of Heaven."

The interviewer marvels some more: "That's a great idea, no denying it. Such great hope is wonderful, even though it's close to lunacy, in my view. Christ has His rank among the world's great thinkers. But Son of God, isn't that farfetched?"

Bono comes back, "Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: He was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn't allow you that. He doesn't let you off that hook. Christ says, No. I'm not saying I'm a teacher, don't call me teacher. I'm not saying I'm a prophet. I'm saying: 'I'm the Messiah.' I'm saying: 'I am God incarnate.' . . . So what you're left with is either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. . . . The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside-down by a nutcase, for me that's farfetched."

What is most interesting in this exchange is the reaction of the interviewer, to whom Bono is, in effect, witnessing. This hip rock journalist starts by scorning what he thinks is Christianity. But it is as if he had never heard of grace, the atonement, the deity of Christ, the gospel. And he probably hadn't. But when he hears what Christianity is actually all about, he is amazed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bono; bornagain; christians; music; u2; witnessing
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1 posted on 07/29/2005 5:11:58 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
Wow!

Bono seems to have done his homework.

There might be hope for this guy yet!
2 posted on 07/29/2005 5:14:58 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: rhema

To many of us in the Christian faith community, this is not new news about Bono.


3 posted on 07/29/2005 5:15:27 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: rhema

I like the "Grace vs Karma" line. I'm going to use that.


4 posted on 07/29/2005 5:21:22 AM PDT by keats5
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To: dagoofyfoot
You know say what you want about Bono. They way this is written it is a very good confession of Faith. This is thought out.
5 posted on 07/29/2005 5:22:57 AM PDT by citadel84 (Reformed Rocket Scientist)
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To: dagoofyfoot

What Bono said was a very condensed version of what C. S. Lewis wrote in his book, "Mere Christianity".


6 posted on 07/29/2005 5:24:30 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: rhema

The Good News!


7 posted on 07/29/2005 5:25:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's code and found a terrorist message.)
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To: rhema

Nice


8 posted on 07/29/2005 5:28:19 AM PDT by frankiep
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To: rhema

BUMP


9 posted on 07/29/2005 5:28:50 AM PDT by bubman
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To: rhema
So what you're left with is either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. . . .

That's actually very well stated.

10 posted on 07/29/2005 5:29:35 AM PDT by Dolphan (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: Nightshift

ping


11 posted on 07/29/2005 5:30:58 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: rhema

"I'm holding out that Jesus took my sins onto the Cross, because I know who I am, and I hope I don't have to depend on my own religiosity."

bttt


12 posted on 07/29/2005 5:32:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance ( Howdy!)
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To: rhema
Bono comes back, "Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: He was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn't allow you that. He doesn't let you off that hook. Christ says, No. I'm not saying I'm a teacher, don't call me teacher. I'm not saying I'm a prophet. I'm saying: 'I'm the Messiah.' I'm saying: 'I am God incarnate.' . . . So what you're left with is either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. . .

Exactly. Jesus was a liar, lunatic or Lord. None of this "great moral teacher" crap.

13 posted on 07/29/2005 5:33:10 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I enjoyed reading this. BTW, on my bookshelf I have a very special place for Mr. Lewis. He helped me clear a lot of junk out of my closet. IMO it is second only to the bible.


14 posted on 07/29/2005 5:34:25 AM PDT by Paulus
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To: rhema

How many posts will it take before the self-righteous start bashing?

Bono has it just about right.


15 posted on 07/29/2005 5:35:22 AM PDT by norge
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To: rhema

I must confess...I was looking for this to be a joke or exaggeration.


16 posted on 07/29/2005 5:35:32 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: dagoofyfoot
Sounds like it was a lot more than homework. Sounds to me like he experienced God's forgiveness in a way he can neither deny or forget. He found, recognized, and acknowledges the Truth.

Only God can make that happen.

17 posted on 07/29/2005 5:38:07 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) WI Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: rhema

Bono's obviously read CS Lewis's Mere Christianity. His defense of the divinity of Christ is almost word-for-word from the book.


18 posted on 07/29/2005 5:41:17 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: 17th Miss Regt
What Bono said was a very condensed version of what C. S. Lewis wrote in his book, "Mere Christianity".

I was gonna say just that. Bono's been reading C.S. Lewis.

19 posted on 07/29/2005 5:41:27 AM PDT by Terabitten (Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: keats5

Then you would love a certain presentation by Frank Peretti. He about spits when he talks about karma. The name of the presentation escapes me, I'll have to find it.


20 posted on 07/29/2005 5:41:57 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) WI Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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