Salty dogma: Bono gives an explicit confession of being saved by Grace, not Karma

WORLD ^ | August 6, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

[Jorge]

I'm not claiming to be a better Christian or more of a Christian all I am saying is that you can not compartmentalize your Christianity.

And this is a very good point. Many Christians have a habit of trying to compartmentalize different aspects of their faith. I agree.

I believe Christians cannot separate their core beliefs and their vote.

They should not, but many do. But I don't think many of these issues are as clear cut as you think they are.

[Rightly Biased]

There is not a bit of gray area in right and wrong or in the Bible.
Right is right and wrong is Left ;^) see Ecc. 10:2

but seriously on abortion and Homosexuality they are clear cut and they are wrong and a Christian CANNOT vote for one that supports those things and be the Christian that Christ wants them to be.

[flaglady47]

"I'm going to climb every mountain and sing, shout, speak...."

Methinks you are a tad off. But that's ok, it takes all kinds.

[SunnySide]

"Methinks you are a tad off. But that's ok, it takes all kinds."

I think you obviously can't get enough of this.

Co-Dependant much?

[Jorge]

but seriously on abortion and Homosexuality they are clear cut and they are wrong and a Christian CANNOT vote for one that supports those things and be the Christian that Christ wants them to be.

Agreed.

[Rightly Biased]

So therefore a Christain cannot be a political liberal.

[Jorge]

So therefore a Christain cannot be a political liberal.

Allow me to clarify;

I agree that pro-abortion and pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage(for example)are contrary to Biblical teachings.

Therefore a Christian SHOULD not support these things.

But a Christian CAN support them and simply be wrong on these issues.

All the warnings in the New Testament to Christians against sin and false teachings tell us that REAL Christians are capable of self-deceit and sin.

Secondly I would disagree with you that all political liberal positions are opposed to Biblical teachings and vice-versa for conservative positions. That is far too simplistic a view.

[Rightly Biased]

We'll disagree

I would say that a person claiming to be a Christain but supports those or any other type of those issues needs to seek Fathers heart.

And I'll leave it at that

God Bless

RB<><

[lifelongsoldier]

Pardon my not so calm reply: Get real! Stop erecting strawmen. The point is that no man should perish, not that no man would perish. Bono may have done, in his words, "stupid things", but if he chose to accept the grace of God he will not perish, which is God's desire. Too bad too few of us are willing to accede to His desires. "By this men will know that you serve Me, that you love one another." You show less of His love in you than does Bono. He hasn't questioned your faith.

[attiladhun2]

Dear Keats5:

Karma is just another name for "works righteousness." Karma says you receive the good that you deserve; grace says you receive the good you do not deserve and did not earn by your own merits. I think I'd rather have grace.

[keats5]

Right. Me too.