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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: Froufrou
I read somewhere that an Eric and Alex Mansur were extradited to Puerto Rico and charges brought for their laundering of millions through Aruban casinos.

I was researching them last night and wondering how close their relationship is with Jossi the media orchestrator of this case. And wondering if blood is thicker than water in this case.

There is an Eric Mansur ballfield in Aruba that I am trying to find the location of also. I am wondering if it is any where near the racquet club that the VDSs are a member of.

Who owns the racquet club?

If the racquet club and the Aruba Racquet Club Villas (Surfside Villa) are owned by the same person/company, who owns them?

Does Joran and/or the VDSs have friends, buddies that rent/own an apartment, condo, effecientcy in the Surfside Villa?

Where are the Harms that was also indicted on the money laundering crime with Eric Mansur? I saw that some are still in Aruba.

101 posted on 07/29/2005 10:40:57 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

I'm here!

I heard the VDS family has a condo
at the club and are members.

But was joran & the kalpoes at the
condo that night? dunno.

It's only speculation they were seen
at the pondd. At that time, the pond
had very little water in it.


102 posted on 07/29/2005 10:41:07 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay
I heard the VDS family has a condo at the club and are members.

Link and proof please.

103 posted on 07/29/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Froufrou

Yes! Here is the story:

http://www.public-i.org/report.aspx?aid=355&sid=100

Twenty miles off the northern coast of Venezuela lies a tiny, sunbaked island called Aruba. Like so many self-governing Caribbean islands that cling to the coast of the Americas, it has been a smugglers paradise since colonial times.
For decades, it also has been a linchpin in an illegal tobacco trade that Colombian authorities claim comprised as much as 90 percent of cigarettes sent into Colombia. The chief purveyors were two powerful Aruba families by the names of Mansur and Harms.


104 posted on 07/29/2005 10:44:20 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: the Deejay

You may've heard this, but someone said the ground where the pond is contains quick mud, like quick sand.

But this is reaching i know. I don't have much hope they're gonna find anything there. It's probably just a wild goose chase to make the family think they're turning over every leaf.

Maybe they'll keep doing things like this until Beth finally wears down.


105 posted on 07/29/2005 10:45:04 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: TexKat

It was SAID ALL OVER THE MSM! FGS.


106 posted on 07/29/2005 10:46:03 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: theophilusscribe

His rational is that Natalee did not disappear from US Soil. Another missing person, Amy Bradley, who disappeared in the same part of the Carribean, was on a US based cruise ship, so she was allowed on the list.




This does not add up for me. I posted yesterday about a show I had watched about cruise ships. It said no cruise ships are registered in the US. All are registered with other countries. So the claim of Amy Bradley being on a US based cruise ship doesn't make sense to me.


107 posted on 07/29/2005 10:48:06 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: the Deejay

News Flash: the pond is draining.............draining...........draining...........zzzzzzzzzz :)


108 posted on 07/29/2005 10:48:53 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: uncitizen

Hasn't it all been a wild goose chase
at this point?

What did the hair on tape reveal? nothing. I knew
it wouldn't.

What about the piece of cloth found? What happened
to it? nothing. not surprised.

They drained one pond in the beginning....nothing
accomplished.

Texas Search has just about turned the island
upside down....nothing...not a shred of
evidence.


109 posted on 07/29/2005 10:50:31 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: bonfire
draining.............draining...........draining...........zzzzzzzzzz :)

LOL!!!!

Won't surprise me one bit if they are still draining next week at this time.

110 posted on 07/29/2005 10:51:58 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat; DeeJay

I too heard the VDS's have a condo. (Raquet Club, I believe) Think it was on FOX or Nancy Grace.


111 posted on 07/29/2005 10:57:31 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: the Deejay

What I don't get is someone... maybe Jossy?! said that the pond would have been dry when Natalee went missing..

Yet they can't get the durn thing drained because of the sea water seeping in? Wouldn't it always be a layer of muck due to the sea water?


112 posted on 07/29/2005 10:58:04 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: the Deejay

I think they are really using large straws.


113 posted on 07/29/2005 10:59:06 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Lizarde

These people are really on top of the situation, aren't they?? Equus wanted to drain that pond weeks ago but were not allowed.


115 posted on 07/29/2005 11:00:55 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

Seems like I heard something about VDS having a couple of rental properties or something like that, too.


116 posted on 07/29/2005 11:01:43 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: RGVTx
All are registered with other countries. So the claim of Amy Bradley being on a US based cruise ship doesn't make sense to me.

Cruise ships are "registered" in other countries for tax and regulation reasons, but still may be "based" (have a home port) in the U.S.

117 posted on 07/29/2005 11:02:23 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: RGVTx

>It said no cruise ships are registered in the US. All are registered with other countries. So the claim of Amy Bradley being on a US based cruise ship doesn't make sense to me.<

It can be registered with a foriegn country but based in the US.(ie the US military bases ships and planes in Europe)


118 posted on 07/29/2005 11:03:10 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: monkeywrench

Where do you learn about him going home to his wife in Colombia??


119 posted on 07/29/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: the Deejay

"No one is giving out any info."

Exactly. Evidence/progress is being kept under wraps, for now.


120 posted on 07/29/2005 11:06:50 AM PDT by jdm (The answer to the extra credit question on a Columbia U exam is always choice C: "Bush's Fault.")
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