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Breast-feeding mom demands apology for indecent exposure ticket
GJsentinel ^ | July 28, 2005 - 11:33 p.m

Posted on 07/30/2005 8:15:50 AM PDT by Asphalt

FORT COLLINS, Colo. — Never mind officials voiding a $50 ticket for indecent exposure, or an explanation from county officials that a ranger who issued the citation to the breast-feeding mother was inexperienced.

Dorian Ryan said she wants an apology for what she called a "humiliating and degrading" experience.

"This isn't right. Women shouldn't be harassed for breast-feeding their children," Dorian Ryan said.

Colorado lawmakers agree. A law passed last year gives women the right to breast feed anywhere she's allowed to be in public.

Ryan, 43, was ticketed for indecent exposure July 14 when she breast fed her son at the Carter Lake swim beach in Larimer County. She was shielded from view by two umbrellas and a towel.

An inexperienced park ranger mistakenly issued the ticket, said Dan Rieves, manager of the Blue Mountain District, which oversees the beach. Park officials have voided the ticket.

Rieves, who has been in contact with Ryan, said a written apology would be sent Friday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: apologizethis; blahblahblah; breastfeeding; co; donutwatch; dorianryan; mmmmtittymmm; shutupwhiner; who
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To: Tax-chick

Seems alot of things that get reported these days really cheapen the true meaning of things. There was a story recently about a nineteen year old guy who had gotten a fifteen year old girl pregnant, so he was being labeled a "sex predator".

Come on. I think we oughta save those descriptors for where they really matter.

Same thing with first degree murder. Premeditated, planned, first degree murder.
There oughta be about a one year time limit to appeal a conviction for first degree murder. Then the chair.
But half the time, these things will get pleaded down, and the creep is back on the streets in eight years or so.


441 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:56 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: djf

It does seem we've lost our perspective. I think one reason minor incidents, like this (old!) woman breastfeeding, are blown out of proportion is that everyone wants to be in the news ... by making a stink over something that not worth an "Aw, shoot ...", or by apologizing for something utterly unconnected to your personal transgressions ... just get some attention, somehow!

We on FR shouldn't have this problem, because we can always post a vanity thread about whatever personal flusters we've got, and hundreds of people will give us all the attention we can stand!


442 posted on 07/31/2005 5:04:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: HitmanNY
"an apology is more meaningful when voluntary (not browbeaten), when the person realizes they have done wrong, and when sincere."

an apology is moreonly meaningful when voluntary (not browbeaten), when the person realizes they have done wrong, and when sincere.

443 posted on 07/31/2005 5:06:43 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty

Indeed!


444 posted on 07/31/2005 5:08:23 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: drjimmy

I agree.


445 posted on 07/31/2005 5:11:11 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian

Yeah, what are you supposed to do if you can't bear your breasts? It's not like they have Velcro so you can take them off!


446 posted on 07/31/2005 5:12:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick
Thank you! This time I'm a short drive away instead of being extremely across the nation. :-) I arrived within 24 hours of baby's birth.

OB is important. Oh yes. OH yes.! Through all your pregnancies did you ever have the "high tech/on the cutting edge" OB who has you tested for everything included Spotted Owl Fever? And you spent most your pregnancy fraught with anxiety? That's the worst. I feel badly for mommies and daddies who get one of these. Especially, the first-timers. Makes pregnancy VERY frightening.

And then there's the AF-types, as you've referenced. (Holy Cow, my daughter delivered in mil hospital -- it was the nurses I brawled with -- the Doctors were SUPERB! They colluded with me in keeping the dictatorial nurses away from my daughter.)

There is civil war camp? What do the kids do?

447 posted on 07/31/2005 5:13:34 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Tax-chick

I guess you could always cut them off, like the Amazons did.

...But then again, that sounds painful.


448 posted on 07/31/2005 5:15:03 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: Alia

Fortunately I've never had an OB who wanted to diagnose everything. They've tended to be laid-back. However, in a military hospital you get whoever shows up, and some are great, and some are awful. That's what the group practice was like - out of 7 doctors, a couple were excellent, four were just fine, and two were jerks. One of the jerks was on call when I went in to deliver, but fortunately his shift ended very shortly, and one of the nice ones showed up!

The new OB is a sole practitioner, so there won't be any surprises at delivery, I hope. (And I can always have it on the lawn at the Fire and Rescue station, if I have to :-).


449 posted on 07/31/2005 5:18:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: The Grammarian

And unsanitary. And detrimental to breastfeeding :-).


450 posted on 07/31/2005 5:18:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Alia

Yes, there's Civil War camp. They march (a lot, I hope) and do Manual of Arms, and dig latrine pits, and cook over camp fires, and stuff like that. TaxDeduction3 is going, too.


451 posted on 07/31/2005 5:19:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"The female employee was reminded of what actions merit citations, Rieves said."

I suspected it was a female....(or might that be "shemale")? My bet; a liberal femi-nazi, anti-feminine type, who thinks sex with men is bad and "fetuses" that survive gestation are just wrong and somehow degrading to that oh so attractive "women can do anything that men can do" image.

452 posted on 07/31/2005 5:20:05 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Tax-chick
Obviously, you weren't a "high risk" case, Tax-Chick -- otherwise you'd have been assigned a specific doctor. BTW, I grew up in mil hospitals. I've always, since then, paid for private practice, and for exactly the reason you cite.

The military is changing. They are now allowing more and more mil and dependents to use private practices off base. Smart Move, IMO.

(have it on the lawn at the fire and rescue station... ROFL!) You would, too. I know it. lolling...

453 posted on 07/31/2005 5:22:29 PM PDT by Alia
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To: raybbr
"...at beach where virtually every women is exposing what they have to world by wearing a bikini???????"

Not to mention those disgusting, sheer looking things that some men wear under the guise of swimming trunks.

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454 posted on 07/31/2005 5:25:05 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Tax-chick
That sounds soooo COOL! We've been attending various Civil War musters and re-enactments which happen regularly, I've learned, in NC. I'm loving every moment of it.

Attended a militia muster couple months back at a "genuine historical" site; and the lady who usually does the Loom in a separate cabin near the house was out ill. I ended up doing the tour to family and strangers; explaining how to work the loom, spin, card, etc. Yep.. long ago I did get my own wool, cleaned, carded, spun, and loomed. I had a gas. I felt a bit self-conscious as it had been so long ago that I'd done these -- but it all came back.

I'm going to ask questions up here next event I take family to to find out if there's civil war camps up in my neck of the woods. My son and grown children would all be begging to take part! We've done so many things "old style" -- candles, cooking in pits, weaving, canning, dehydrating, smoking meats in an old barrel; but there's so much more I learn every single time I go to one of these. THESE PEOPLE OF THAT GENERATION WORKED REALLY HARD!

How long does the camp run?

455 posted on 07/31/2005 5:29:23 PM PDT by Alia
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To: kiki04
"To get the effect, place a vacuum on your penis. Now leave it there for a half hour."

ROTFL.

456 posted on 07/31/2005 5:35:19 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: kiki04

See, I have another angle on the why's of formula. Sure, sure, we can all say it was a huge "formula company plot"; but at different times economic depression, environmental disasters struck. If mommies don't get proper nutrition, their milk lacks, and babies suffer. I've heard the stuff about formula being better than breastmilk as a slogan. But first-hand anecdotal data of old journals had some very tired women working hard, hard lives, being very grateful for formula.


457 posted on 07/31/2005 5:43:09 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
I grew up in the military, too, and then married into the military. The first time I made and appointment, took a baby to a civilian practice, saw the doctor in 15 minutes, got my prescription for antibiotics that could be filled in any drugstore, and wrote my check for $35, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
458 posted on 07/31/2005 5:53:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Alia

This camp is 4 days, 9:00 - 3:00. It's the first year they've had it here; the director at the local historic site came here last year from the Upper Peninsula of Virginia, and he's introduced a lot of new programs. They had a Civil War Ghost Trail at Halloween that was terrific; I felt quite a chill when the Yankee soldier collapsed at my feet and said, "Oh, mother! I'm shot!"

I have a friend in Missouri who does "Primitive Rendezvous" (1840's) with her family - husband, kids, grandkids - but I don't think I'd have the guts!


459 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

That is, "Northern Neck" of Virginia. "Upper Peninsula" is Michigan.


460 posted on 07/31/2005 6:42:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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