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Ebola Recombinant Linked to Mystery Illness in Sichuan China? (BIOWEAPON ALERT!!)
Recombinomics ^ | 30 Jul 05 | Recombinomics

Posted on 07/30/2005 2:07:13 PM PDT by datura

 


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Ebola Recombinant Linked to Mystery Illness in Sichuan China?


Recombinomics Commentary

July 30, 2005


D: "It's alright. We ran tests on those samples and isolated the SZ77++A3231 virus."

I: "What is this SZ77++A3231 virus?"

D: "This is a strain of the Ebola virus."

I: "Would you like to comment about it?"

D: "It's rather impossible to totally explain it."

I: "I can understand so, but why is the term "less-infectious" always affixed to our version of the Ebola virus?"

D: "There are 2 reasons for doing so. First, to reduce panic among the people should it ever leak. And second, the Ebola virus has evolved in China. Re-combination has been detected. Most prominently at the portion which determines its effect on humans (very technical description, I can't describe it. sorry.). Also, abrupt breaks in the sequencing were detected, leading to changes in the incubation period. (Or possibly "changes in the incubation period were detected")

I: "How were these viruses classified then? / Could you elaborate more about the various strains?"

D: "Previously, strains of Ebola in China always had the EBO prefix. Subsequently following information leaks, the classification method was changed. We stopped using the EBO prefix. Instead, coupled with the discovery that the virus had become more virulent and lethal, we re-named the strains according to the placed where they were first discovered. For example, the strain in June became the SZ77++A3231. Sometimes, we don't even use their place of discovery, instead directly naming it the ++A3231."

I: "In that way, the Ebola virus wouldn't even be brought into the picture."

D: "Precisely, viruses such as the Ebola are national secrets."

The above comments by a physician involved in testng samples from patients in the mysterious swine outbreak in Sichuan indicate that one of the agents isolated is a recombinant Ebola virus originally isolated from Shenzen.  Prior reports had listed the names and characteristics of various Ebola isolates and EB-SZ-277 was capable of infecting birds.  SZ277++A3231 is a recombinant version of SZ-277 isolated from a patient.  The discussion indicates China has an active Ebola project and the virus is rapidly evolving via recombination. It was not clear from earlier reports if the agent was isolated and sequenced, but this interview leaves little doubt that both isolation and sequencing of Ebola is quite active. 
It is unclear if the recombination is related to the region of identity between Ebola and H5N1. Ebola is considered a state secret, so there are no reports of the virus or availability of virus or sequences.

The interview also indicates that the streptococcus suis is not the cause of the illness.  It is present in pigs and is merely activated by infectious agents, which include Ebola, plague, and an un-named virus which is considered "dangerous".  The emphasis is on the bacteria because it can produce similar symptoms.  The symptoms of the patients match pandemic flu of 1918, and H5N1 can produce such symptoms.

The interview, if accurate, would support the role of agents other than be bacteria, in the spread on prgression of the illness.  streptococcus Suis does not produce the high case fatality rate, and can be treated with antibiotics, as can plague.  The high case fatality rate also supports the involvement of a virus and the proximity to Qinghai Lake keeps H5N1bird flu and migratory birds on the short list of explanations for the raid spread of the fatal disease that is resistant to antibiotic treatment.


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To: datura
Good sleuthing datura!

Read more Bird Flu Reports and also Even More Here

Ebola genetically mutated and combined with H5N1 sounds like the film "12 Monkeys." But Dr. Henry Niman has an excellent reputation.

101 posted on 07/30/2005 8:02:40 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
I'll pass that along to my wife and kids. My wife's matriarchal lineage is Scottish. None of the women in the family has lived beyond age 59 in family records dating back to 1423.
102 posted on 07/30/2005 8:27:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
What happened to the Cherokees is well documented. Andrew Jackson turned on them after they helped our young nation to defeat the British in the War of 1812. For their aid and assistance, they were force marched nearly 900 miles out of their native lands. "Trail of Tears"

I am one-quarter Blackfoot myself. The Blackfoot Nation was comprised of four tribes that controlled the all the trade routes from Montana to the Pacific Ocean. In 1838, the Blackfeet were decimated by small pox spread intentionally by U.S. troops using infected blankets. We were the first target of biological warfare in world history.

I have read reports recently saying Native Americans share genetic links to Asians. Of course, the Chinese deny it. Oh, well, not for me to worry, anyway. I'm just a geezer trapped in the Peoples Republic of Oregon.

103 posted on 07/30/2005 8:43:15 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan
My wife's grandmother was an orphaned Cherokee girl named "Mary Jane Pheasant". She lived in the area of LaCyne, KS. Her orphan status made further research nearly impossible. I suspect she is a descendent of the Trail of Tears group.
104 posted on 07/30/2005 9:48:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: datura
Good morning.
"Colostrum (dried bovine colostrum) is rather amazing - especially if taken with CoQ10. I'll FReepmail you with my results so far."

I wouldn't mind reading that also, if it's no problem.

Michael Frazier
105 posted on 07/31/2005 7:07:20 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Kuehn12
Good morning.
"A few vials of these kinds of biological agent spread over a few dozen cities, before anyone could react it might be game over. Say hello to Captain Tripps."

Somewhere in my travels I read that a release of a contagion in a couple of stations of the subway system would spread the infection through New York in one day. Even if that is overly melodramatic, I have to think that a release in any of several international airports would make it virtually impossible to control the spread of the disease.

I think it is time to rotate the Y2K preps and to buy more ammo.

Michael Frazier
106 posted on 07/31/2005 7:24:55 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: datura

'Deceased case's face and bottom will disintegrate within 2-8 hours afterwards; their nails also fall apart. '


Oy.


107 posted on 07/31/2005 7:31:27 AM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: datura

I am interested in reading articles of this type, so as to know what's going on in the world. I also often pass along articles of this nature to my sister who is a Nurse Practioner without enough time to log onto FR.


108 posted on 07/31/2005 9:39:38 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ex-Texan
In 1838, the Blackfeet were decimated by small pox spread intentionally by U.S. troops using infected blankets. We were the first target of biological warfare in world history.

No flames, please...
...but the (limited) information I had indicated that stories of infected blankets by the US were the fevered imagination of Ward Churchill...
although they had in fact been used by the French.

Do you have any documentation for this claim?

Cheers!

109 posted on 08/14/2005 1:02:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Click the link below and read very deep into the link. There are more links on the link. You also may Goooogle it for yourself ("Blackfoot + smallpox blankets"). When my son was in college on the east coast he met relatives of the men who planned the smallpox blanket scenario. They apologized profusely. But that does not make up for the genocide, now does it?

Link Here

110 posted on 08/14/2005 1:48:59 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: grey_whiskers
Found this article just published today: Was It Genocide?
111 posted on 08/14/2005 3:07:16 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: tortoise
Fear of retribution is a bitch.

Correct. And anyone who believes we don't have our own 'payloads' we could deliver to China is sure dreamin'.

112 posted on 08/14/2005 3:16:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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