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Dems in the Doldrums: The Party Still Hasn't Got its Act Together
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 30, 2005

Posted on 07/31/2005 1:23:03 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

A meeting of the Democratic Leadership Council on Monday cast harsh light on the current crisis within the Democratic Party.

It has at least four problems. One is that it lost the 2004 elections badly. The second is that its primary support organization, the labor movement, has just split. The third is that it has no obvious presidential candidate for 2008 and isn't showing much flair in trying to find one. The fourth is that, even though the Republicans don't have a presidential candidate yet either, they still present a relatively smooth phalanx in the field, based largely on their control of the White House and Congress.

In the 2004 elections, the Republican margin of victory wasn't that great, but there is no question but that they won. They are already gearing up for the 2006 Congressional elections while the Democrats remain relatively rudderless.

The 2004 elections put Sen. John Kerry clearly in the category of "let's don't do that again," even if he acts like he doesn't know it. Forgetful party faithful nostalgic for former President Bill Clinton's success in the 1990s are looking wistfully at New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, apparently mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient. It would be wise of them not to imagine that she can be re-done by simple shifts of position.

The party national committee chairman, former Gov. Howard Dean, brings a lot of energy to resuscitating the party's fortunes. At the same time Dr. Dean came out of the 2004 campaign with major political damage and should not be thought of as the party's candidate in 2008.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2006election; 2008election; bush; congress; dean; democrat; dlc; liberalism; lostdems; republican
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1 posted on 07/31/2005 1:23:03 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient.

Pray that he is correct.

2 posted on 07/31/2005 1:27:35 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Leave it to Dean?...good luck!


3 posted on 07/31/2005 1:34:48 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: West Coast Conservative

But I thought that the Democrats recently hired that gunslinger, George Lackoff, to teach them how to lie better?


4 posted on 07/31/2005 1:36:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: West Coast Conservative
The second is that its primary support organization, the labor movement, has just split.

Split or no, the union thugs will vote Democrat regardless.

5 posted on 07/31/2005 1:36:39 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: West Coast Conservative
In the 2004 elections, the Republican margin of victory wasn't that great, but there is no question but that they won...

Finally..! A Liberal newspaper that gets it..

6 posted on 07/31/2005 1:58:51 AM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrs)Military)
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To: West Coast Conservative

But Her Thighness has got to at least try for the nomination. (I've already cut the stencil which says "Run, Hillary, Run" and want to spray paint it on the front of my snowplow.)


7 posted on 07/31/2005 2:00:03 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Stop being a victim, resist social engineering.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith
In the 2004 elections, the Republican margin of victory wasn't that great, but there is no question but that they won...

I guess that an advantage of more than 3 million votes for the Presidential candidate, and a net gain in both the House and Senate comes across as "not so great"...

8 posted on 07/31/2005 2:14:07 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The C-5 Galaxy (http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=84)...sometimes, size DOES matter!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
We would give equally apt Democratic advice to the Republicans if they were in the mess the Democrats are in: this page believes firmly that a strong, balanced two-party system is the essence of healthy American government.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 2:51:47 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

All union members don't vote dim. A larger percentage of union workers are seeing the light and voting against special interests.
Clearly a majority still do but a far greater percentage is coming around. These folks are getting mad as hell that their dues goes to dims against their wishes.
I kinda like having mad voters on my side. They work harder then she schepple who are doing it cause they are just stupid.


10 posted on 07/31/2005 2:59:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: West Coast Conservative
What is there to do for the Democrats? Stop looking at old favorites; remember Mr. Clinton and look among the governors, particularly the Southern governors. Draw blood on the Republicans by pointing clearly at some of their most outrageous actions. Can anyone believe, for example, that the new energy bill gives fat new breaks to the oil companies, those Bush administration pals who are systematically emptying our wallets into their pockets at the gas pump?

Yikes! I was joking earlier about Dims evading reality, but this is the gift that just keeps on givin'...As long as they can't grasp the most basic principles of economics that permits our country to continue to provide strong incentive for productivity, they are doomed....DOOMED I TELL YOU!

Please join me as we March towards Election Season '06:

Freepers frolic in the garden of Dim despair...

11 posted on 07/31/2005 3:26:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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a strong two party system is essential to the health of our nation-as long as one of then is not Democrat party. I've been writing to Ann Coulter asking her to form a new party and offering her my services as chief of staff and head masseur but strangely she has answered none of my six hundred letters.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 3:56:55 AM PDT by Larry381 (This tagline closed for repairs until 2006)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Split or no, the union thugs will vote Democrat regardless.

The union thugs will vote democrat, what the DUmmy party is concerned about is all that lost free labor on election day and stolen votes that go with it.

13 posted on 07/31/2005 4:01:31 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
A few "let's hate the Republicans" sentences but pretty good assessment overall. However, it has no obvious presidential candidate for 2008, seems odd.
14 posted on 07/31/2005 4:03:56 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberal: A blatant liar who likes to spend other people's money.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith
This pathetic "newspaper" is the major reason that Pittsburgh is a bankrupt city without hope....

The largely democrat population just doesn't know reality because of the lies and deceit of this rag.

15 posted on 07/31/2005 4:17:27 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Why do we need a strong socialist counter-point party in America? Real Americans hate socialists. We wouldn't be in anywhere near the ugly mess we're in if the Soviets hadn't funded the attempted (nearly successful) destruction of our culture in the '60's.
16 posted on 07/31/2005 4:46:41 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: West Coast Conservative

The longer the dems are in the doldrums the more likely hillary will lead them.

Historical analogy to Germany of the 1930's.


17 posted on 07/31/2005 4:47:15 AM PDT by nairBResal
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New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, apparently mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient.

This is so very true.

New Yorkers may think that Hillary is the best thing to come along since white bread, but there are many people elsewhere in the country who can't stand her or her husband.

If the Dems are stupid enough to put her up for president she'll have to confront those same people on the stump, and it won't be pretty for her. There's also the question of her temperament. If she freaks out in front of a hostile crowd even the biased MSM won't be able to cover for her.

18 posted on 07/31/2005 5:04:32 AM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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dems in the doldrums? as in becalmed, listless, and depressed?

Boo-hoo.

19 posted on 07/31/2005 5:06:40 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"The third is that it has no obvious presidential candidate for 2008 and isn't showing much flair in trying to find one."

I'd re-write this sentence: The third is that it has an obvious presidential candidate for 2008, but she doesn't have a chance to win the election.

I'd say that Hillary is the presumptive nominee, which takes all the oxygen from candidate who would have a chance to win: Evan Bayh and Mark Warner. The last Northeast Senator to win the Presidency was John Kennedy. LBJ won as President, Carter won as a moderate Southern governor, just like Bill Clinton. America has become more conservative and I don't see why, if it didn't elect Northeast Senator Kerry during a tough war and tough economy, it would elect Senator Hillary during a better war and better economy.

The union split is very interesting. The AFL-CIO gave the Democrats $100 - $200 million, plus they sent out 30 million voter guides, plus they went door-to-door, plus they made tens of millions of phone calls. The unions that have split off have seen this money p*ssed away in losing election after election, all the while their membership numbers are collapsing. The split-off unions demand that the millions be spent on gaining new members in organizing campaigns instead of giving it to loser politicians, who don't come through with their promises, even IF they get elected. Thank you Bill Clinton.

This is a huge strategic body blow to the Democrats. They won't be able to replace the money lost. they won't be able to replace the foot-soldiers. They won't be able to replace the political influence. Okay, tell me how they are going to do better in '08? I can't see how.

Now, if the Republicans would just keep their small government, more freedom promises.

20 posted on 07/31/2005 5:43:58 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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