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Dems in the Doldrums: The Party Still Hasn't Got its Act Together
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 30, 2005

Posted on 07/31/2005 1:23:03 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

A meeting of the Democratic Leadership Council on Monday cast harsh light on the current crisis within the Democratic Party.

It has at least four problems. One is that it lost the 2004 elections badly. The second is that its primary support organization, the labor movement, has just split. The third is that it has no obvious presidential candidate for 2008 and isn't showing much flair in trying to find one. The fourth is that, even though the Republicans don't have a presidential candidate yet either, they still present a relatively smooth phalanx in the field, based largely on their control of the White House and Congress.

In the 2004 elections, the Republican margin of victory wasn't that great, but there is no question but that they won. They are already gearing up for the 2006 Congressional elections while the Democrats remain relatively rudderless.

The 2004 elections put Sen. John Kerry clearly in the category of "let's don't do that again," even if he acts like he doesn't know it. Forgetful party faithful nostalgic for former President Bill Clinton's success in the 1990s are looking wistfully at New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, apparently mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient. It would be wise of them not to imagine that she can be re-done by simple shifts of position.

The party national committee chairman, former Gov. Howard Dean, brings a lot of energy to resuscitating the party's fortunes. At the same time Dr. Dean came out of the 2004 campaign with major political damage and should not be thought of as the party's candidate in 2008.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2006election; 2008election; bush; congress; dean; democrat; dlc; liberalism; lostdems; republican
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To: squirt-gun
"Even though the GOP is getting plenty of scratches on its paint through the Karl Rove saga, the growing unpopularity of the war, the wearing off of the Teflon that has protected them from paying the price for their "the rich -- first, last, and always" policies,..."

You're right, they are delusional. No one to the right of MoveOn.org cares about the Karl Rove kerfluffle. No Teflon loss there.

This newspaper ought to define "the rich". I remember in California 15 years ago the Dem's were attacking Republican support for "the rich". Turns out "the rich" were anyone who made $75K per year. Look, if class envy rhetoric didn't work in America for the past 50 years, why would it start working now, with Americans becoming wealthier and even more owning property, stocks, bonds, etc.?

21 posted on 07/31/2005 5:54:23 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Carolinamom

Who do you think this writer voted for in 04?


22 posted on 07/31/2005 6:28:54 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Dogs rule)
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To: West Coast Conservative
this page believes firmly that a strong, balanced two-party system is the essence of healthy American government.

Interesting. If one could search this paper's archives from the days when the DIMs were the unquestionably dominant national party, is it even remotely possible that this same attitude was present? ROTFLMAF

None of these people gave a crap about a two party system until the DIMs became the minority party. Kicks them off of their holier than thou perch, doesn't it?

23 posted on 07/31/2005 6:36:16 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Its French time, its French time, its time for the Democrats to go French!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
24 posted on 07/31/2005 6:40:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative
apparently mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient

Counting on a high "hate" factor, we need to band together and help the Green Party become stronger. I'm going to send them a few bucks and encourage them to put someone on the ballot other than a Nader wannabe. Divide and conquer.
25 posted on 07/31/2005 7:01:13 AM PDT by schaketo (Not all who wander are lost)
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To: ncountylee
"mindless of her continuing high "hate" quotient. Pray that he is correct."
We need to start coalescing around a strong 2008 candidate, and rather soon. Prolonged internecine squabble cannot be afforded. Somebody like Cheney [not available] or Zell.
26 posted on 07/31/2005 8:05:37 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: West Coast Conservative

The reason the Democrats are losing elections is that their ideas keep on being discredited. What's surprising is that they win as many elections as they do.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 11:35:25 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: Hardastarboard
Why do we need a strong socialist counter-point party in America?
I don't feel the need for one, but in principle we don't want a one-party system either.

The real problem is that we have an "Objective Journalism" party and a Republican Party.

To claim to be virtuous is to commit the sin of pride - and objectivity is a virtue. Thus, "Objective Journalism" is arrogant. It is also superficial because of its deadlines, and is negative for the same reason that the boy cried, "Wolf!"

"Objective Journalism" is also cowardly. Wach member of journalism is afraid of the ostrcization of the group. That is why each of them conforms to a pseudo-courageous concensus in which all loudly proclaim that they are are for the little guy, and unafraid of "big business and the government." By which they actually mean that they pick on the party of Middle America, unafraid of people who actually uphold the Constitution and its First Amendment. But in mortal fear of being called "not objective, not a journalist" by The New York Times.


28 posted on 07/31/2005 1:19:50 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Mindless people are not easy to train.


29 posted on 07/31/2005 1:30:52 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: West Coast Conservative

If Democrats lose in 2008, look for Howard Dean as the frontrunner for 2012.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 3:49:27 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: West Coast Conservative

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - Napoleon Bonaparte


31 posted on 07/31/2005 5:09:21 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"It has at least four problems. One is that it lost the 2004 elections badly...In the 2004 elections, the Republican margin of victory wasn't that great"

So which is it, Bub?


32 posted on 07/31/2005 5:17:48 PM PDT by decal ("The French should stick to kisses, toast and fries.")
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To: Larry381
a strong two party system is essential to the health of our nation-as long as one of then is not Democrat party. I've been writing to Ann Coulter asking her to form a new party and offering her my services as chief of staff and head masseur but strangely she has answered none of my six hundred letters.

And I always thought that she was a smart girl???

The Dems lies have been completely exposed by themselves and are a complete joke to most of America. Always starting a sentance with "Americans think..." when they have no clue about what America is about. So they are going to run an angry, old, lesbian, anti-war, commie lib, Harpy for a change.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

33 posted on 07/31/2005 5:26:40 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Typical, asinine RATmedia dreaming. The Rove thing was an invented waste of media space "scandal" and didn't "scratch" the Pubbies at all. It did wound the RATs and the leftmedia, however.


34 posted on 07/31/2005 5:51:11 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hillary Clinton may have a high 'hate' quotient, but we should never overlook her. Never. I hope the Republicans don't get cocky yet again during a presidential election.


35 posted on 07/31/2005 8:25:35 PM PDT by Utah Girl ("Keep your face to the sunshine & you cannot see the shadows" ~Helen Keller)
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