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Battle to Save the Gun Industry Moves to the House
Gun Owners of America ^ | August 3, 2005 | N/A

Posted on 08/04/2005 11:38:32 AM PDT by neverdem

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Aug 2005

Battle to Save the Gun Industry Moves to the House
-- Rep. Musgrave working to remove anti-gun amendment

Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585

Wednesday, August 3, 2005

Last week, GOA alerted you to legislation passed in the Senate (S. 397) that will protect gun makers from frivolous lawsuits.

Unfortunately, S. 397 passed with some unwanted baggage -- specifically, an amendment offered by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI) requiring gun dealers to include a "lock-up-your-safety" device with every handgun sold.

In addition to imposing a "gun tax" on every handgun buyer, this amendment paves the way for future legislation mandating that gun owners use those trigger locks. Many gun owners don't use locking devices because they want instant protection during a moment of crisis. That should be their choice.

So GOA is now working with Colorado Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R) to get this obnoxious provision stripped out of the bill. She will be sending a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay, asking them to NOT approve the Senate bill.

Rather, the Musgrave letter asks these two leaders to push the House bill, H.R. 800, which provides lawsuit immunity for gun makers and sellers, without endangering average gun owners. H.R. 800 has been well received in the House, as it currently has a whopping 257 cosponsors.

Rep. Musgrave needs additional cosignatories before she sends her letter. And this is where we need your help.

ACTION: Please ask your Representative to sign onto the Musgrave letter opposing the "lock-up-your-safety" provision in S. 397. She needs as many Congressional signatures as possible to show the House leadership that there is a groundswell of support for pushing the House bill, H.R. 800, rather than just taking the Senate version at face value.

You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Representative a pre-written e-mail message such as the one below.

--- Pre-written letter ---

Dear Representative:

As you know, the Senate recently passed much-needed lawsuit protection for the gun industry (S. 397). But this bill passed with some unwanted baggage -- specifically, an amendment offered by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI) requiring gun dealers to include a "lock-up-your-safety" device with every handgun sold.

In addition to imposing a "gun tax" on every handgun buyer, this amendment paves the way for future legislation mandating that gun owners use those trigger locks.

Many gun owners don't use locking devices because they want instant protection during a moment of crisis. Mandatory trigger locks will actually cost lives by rendering self-defense firearms ineffective in an emergency situation.

I urge you to sign onto a letter being circulated by Rep. Marilyn Musgrave which deals with real efforts to gain lawsuit protection for gun makers and gun dealers, without endangering ordinary gun owners.

The letter asks the House leadership to push H.R. 800, a lawsuit protection bill that contains no gun control, rather than its Senate counterpart. H.R. 800 has been well received in the House, as it currently has 257 cosponsors.

America deserves a clean bill which offers real protection for gun makers and dealers. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

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Senate OKs Kohl gun bill

The Senate voted 70-30 Thursday to approve Sen. Herb Kohl’s proposal requiring gun manufacturers, dealers and importers to include child-safety locks on the triggers of handguns.

I think someone could argue that the Senate has possibly 25 RINOs. BTW, don't use such form letters.

1 posted on 08/04/2005 11:38:33 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Discussion on this topic also (briefly) here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1454724/posts

And here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1454724/posts


2 posted on 08/04/2005 11:42:13 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: neverdem

The bill is OK as amended. Throw the damned lock away or use it as a fishing weight.


3 posted on 08/04/2005 11:43:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I just saw this about armor piercing ammo. I have my doubts re-inforced.

JPFO ALERT: IS S. 397 A TROJAN HORSE?

4 posted on 08/04/2005 11:51:24 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Some rimfire ammo will penetrate body armor..


5 posted on 08/04/2005 11:53:08 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I have a drawer full of gun locks - the local PDs around here give them away free. Since they are free, I always grab one.

The danger in the Senate bill is the "armor piercing rounds" amendment. The definition is so broad that almost any bullet could be classified as armor-piercing.
6 posted on 08/04/2005 11:54:54 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

If it becomes acceptable to mandate that a lock is sold with a gun, it might soon become acceptable to mandate that the locks must be used at all times. After all, of what use is a lock if no one uses them?

(Consider seat belts, they were first optionally installed, and then mandatorially installed in vehicles, but optional to wear. Since then, they have become mandatory for kids, then for everyone in the front seat, but not as a primary offense, but now that and mandatory child seats are primary offenses in Colorado. "Slick it or ticket.")

We know too much about the gun grabbers to believe that trigger lock requirements will stop at them being merely madated, for sale only, for new handguns only.


7 posted on 08/04/2005 11:57:00 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: neverdem

GOA don't be stupid and kill this very important legislation over trigger locks. Most guns are
sold with them now anyway.

These bogus lawsuits run up the cost of firearms
far more than a $5 lock and the argument that this
provision will encourage future laws mandating use
of the locks is silly. A future anti-gun Congress
will pass whatever laws they can ram through,
regardless of any existing laws.

Sorry, to me this looks like GOA puffery, trying
to derail decent NRA-backed legislation over a minor
issue.


8 posted on 08/04/2005 11:57:22 AM PDT by jrp
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To: neverdem

God bless GOA!


9 posted on 08/04/2005 11:58:26 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: coloradan

You make a good point. I wouldn't worry as long as gun locks weren't made mandatory. The key to all this is having the right faces on the High Court.


10 posted on 08/04/2005 12:05:20 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The key to all this is having the right faces on the High Court.

That might be a good key, but a good backup strategy might be to get rid of bad legislation, and to strip away bad amendments from bills presently being considered. It would be nice to think we can depend on the SC for all future times, but we can't.

11 posted on 08/04/2005 12:09:37 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: jrp

Don't forget that NFA 34, GCA 68, and Brady were NRA-backed.


12 posted on 08/04/2005 12:10:25 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

The seat belt analogy is on the money!


13 posted on 08/04/2005 12:17:43 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: jrp

This is more than just trigger locks. The Performance standard is a deal killer. Also, the movement is on to make NOT storing your firearms with a trigger lock on them a crime.


14 posted on 08/04/2005 12:24:31 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: neverdem

I thought the "armor piercing" amendment was one to just study the matter for a couple of years. That it really didn't do anything... just a bone to the dims.


15 posted on 08/04/2005 12:30:33 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: coloradan

BRADY WAS NOT BACKED BY THE NRA. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS BUT THAT STATEMENT INCLUDING BRADY IS A LIE.


16 posted on 08/05/2005 3:24:58 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Re: NRA support for Brady being a "lie": http://www.gunownersalliance.com/baker.htm
17 posted on 08/06/2005 12:50:57 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

It's a lie. We didn't have the votes. Unlike the yappy little dogs who do nothing, the NRA fought a losing battle because gun owners didn't have the votes to stop Brady.

Take your shoes and socks off so you can count better. When the NRA fought against Brady they did a head count for and against the bill. Gun Owners were outvoted. We lost our gun rights because most gun owners do nothing to help their rights. It's people like the members of the NRA who have been fighting a losing battle for the last forty years. We finally are making some headway only to see whiny little crybabies who have nothing for their rights except bitch.


18 posted on 08/06/2005 1:37:27 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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