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Their aim was true: with Democratic support, Senate passes gun lawsuit ban
Orange County Register ^ | 08/05/2005 | Editorial

Posted on 08/07/2005 3:53:22 PM PDT by RightDemocrat

A few years ago, the strategy of gun-control advocates was obvious: File frivolous liability lawsuits against gun-makers and distributors, knowing that, whatever the ultimate merits of the cases, the manufacturers would be hard- pressed to keep fighting. Many would go out of business, profits would decline for others, and the high costs imposed by endless litigation would drive up the costs of guns and make it more difficult for many people to afford to buy them.

It was a cynical strategy, but one that is about to end. A shift in political winds has changed the dynamic. A gain of four seats in the U.S. Senate by Republicans, and the realization by Democrats that their incessant anti-Second Amendment viewpoints have a political cost, resulted in a 65-31 vote last week in favor of a National Rifle Association-backed bill that would largely forbid lawsuits against gun-makers and dealers when guns they produce or sell are used illegally.

Fourteen Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, joined the majority. The House of Representatives is expected to pass similar legislation next month and the president has already indicated his support for this type of legislation

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 109th; bang; banglist; democrat; frivolouslawsuits; guncontrol; lawsuits; secondamendment
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As a conservative Democrat, I am encouraged that a significant number of Democratic Senators supported this common sense legislaton to ban lawsuits against gun manufacturers when their guns are used by criminals. Democrats need to strongly support Second Amendment rights and mandatory sentences from criminals who use guns to commit crimes. I think that may be the start of a pro-gun rights trend among Democrats.
1 posted on 08/07/2005 3:53:23 PM PDT by RightDemocrat
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To: RightDemocrat

Now if they could defeat the bullet ID bill in Kalifornia I'd be happy. If the Kali bill passes it will open up a whole new front in the gun control wars.


2 posted on 08/07/2005 3:56:16 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: RightDemocrat
Conservative Democrat huh? That's an oxymoron as ridiculous as pretty ugly. What makes you a Democrat?
3 posted on 08/07/2005 4:02:00 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever
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To: RightDemocrat
"I think that may be the start of a pro-gun rights trend among Democrats."


I'm sorry, but fat chance. The Democrats know this is a losing issue for them. Nevertheless, they aren't smart enough or honest enough to take a pro-gun rights position. And if they do, like in this case, it is only window dressing.
4 posted on 08/07/2005 4:08:45 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: need_a_screen_name

"I think that may be the start of a pro-gun rights trend among Democrats."
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Not as long as the hard-core SOCIALISTS are still running the DNC and party. Until these mongrel rats are cleaned out and the Dems once again start focusing on WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY, as opposed to WHAT IS RIGHT TO INSTALL THEIR SOCIALIST POWER, they will foreever be anti-Constitutional, anti-American, anti-everything that is part of American heritage and foundation.


5 posted on 08/07/2005 4:15:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: RightDemocrat

The only reason they went along was because it included
Mandatory gun locks be encluded with each sale, that
and it was going to pass anyway.


6 posted on 08/07/2005 4:17:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: need_a_screen_name
It would go against their bylaws for being a DemoRat.

Rule #14 for being a Dem.

The Patriot Act is a horrific compromise of Constitutional rights, but anti-Second Amendment laws and Franklin Roosevelt's Presidential Order 9066 must be regarded "reasonable precautions.

And Rule #22

The People" in the First Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Fourth Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Ninth Amendment means The People; "the People" in the Tenth Amendment means The People; but "the People" in the Second Amendment (ratified in 1791) means the National Guard (created by an Act of Congress in 1903).

7 posted on 08/07/2005 4:18:20 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Proud Bushiite.)
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To: DuckFan4ever
Glad to see my list put to good use.   :o) Thanks!
8 posted on 08/07/2005 4:23:04 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: DuckFan4ever

Some Republicans are moderate to liberal so why shouldn't there be conservative Democrats ? My party affiliation is at least partly traditional as I am a southern Democrat. I hold conservative views on most social issues but populist on economic issues. Republicans are a little too pro-big business and anti-labor for my taste. I certainly don't agree with much of the current Democratic Party leadership as it is too socially liberal and politically correct. Unless one of the major parties wakes up and acknowledges the voters who are angry about so-called "free trade" and illegal immigration there will be a strong third party movement. Check out my blog which has current articles and archives at http://www.rightdemocrat.blogspot.com and it will tell more about what I stand for.



9 posted on 08/07/2005 4:23:16 PM PDT by RightDemocrat
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To: Arkie2
"Now if they could defeat the bullet ID bill in Kalifornia I'd be happy."

This is the next Demoncrat equivalent to Star Trek. "To go where no man has gone before". This is as loony as the "ballistic fingerprinting" scheme. Even California AG Lockler has had to hide the report that "fingerprinting" does not work.
10 posted on 08/07/2005 4:24:01 PM PDT by hophead (" Shi'ite happens..")
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"I think that may be the start of a pro-gun rights trend among Democrats."

Yeah, right.
We know how this game is played.

11 posted on 08/07/2005 4:25:50 PM PDT by labette (A living, breathing, constitution is the model of doublespeak.)
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To: Prime Choice

Was that your personal list? I thought it was a generic list you got from somewhere. I guess I should be giving you credit for it then.


12 posted on 08/07/2005 4:30:49 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Proud Bushiite.)
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To: RightDemocrat
I hold conservative views on most social issues but populist on economic issues. Republicans are a little too pro-big business and anti-labor for my taste

Workers of the world unite.

BTW, you do know you are on the same side as communist hugo chavez on CAFTA.

Venuzeula's Chazez says CAFTA 'perverse'

13 posted on 08/07/2005 4:31:31 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Arkie2

Well, don't hold your breath. Schwarzenegger will probably screw this up too.


14 posted on 08/07/2005 4:33:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: RightDemocrat
For anybody interested they can see the roll call vote at the below link.

Link

hillary was at least honest and showed her true self by voting against the 2nd amendment.

The only Pubbie who voted against was dewine(OH).

15 posted on 08/07/2005 4:36:53 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: labette
We know how this game is played.

Yep you only need to look back to 1994 to read the play book. There might be a lot of conservative democrats out there. But everyone knows if the democrats ever get control of the house or senate the safe leadership of the party will start grabbing every gun in sight.

16 posted on 08/07/2005 4:38:25 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: RightDemocrat
Republicans are a little too pro-big business and anti-labor for my taste.

Ladies and gentleman, Senator Jon Corzine is in da house!
17 posted on 08/07/2005 4:40:24 PM PDT by motzman (populism, socialism, communism---what's the difference?)
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To: tet68

I seem to remember some bad amendments were included in the bill at one point. Anybody know the info?


18 posted on 08/07/2005 4:43:35 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: pepperhead
I was just thinking of the late Mike Synar from Oklahoma.
He was one of the "good Democrats" who took NRA money, then double-crossed gun owners when William the Slick pushed his button.
19 posted on 08/07/2005 4:45:18 PM PDT by labette (A living, breathing, constitution is the model of doublespeak.)
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To: RightDemocrat
I think that may be the start of a pro-gun rights trend among Democrats.

Nope. This is just a decision by Senate Dims in red states to not pick this particular hill to die on because there's nothing in it for them. So they hold their noses and vote for it to try and fool the rubes back home, all the while crossing their fingers and figuring which court is most likely to overturn it and then working to steer it toward that court.

20 posted on 08/07/2005 4:46:16 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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