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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 13
Various News Outlets | 8/7/05

Posted on 08/07/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Parzival

I am arguing from the standpoint of a trained counselor. Actually my doctorate is in theology, with a secondary work in psychology. My wife is a psychologist.


101 posted on 08/07/2005 9:19:21 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

> I am arguing from the standpoint of a trained counselor.
> Actually my doctorate is in theology, with a secondary work
> in psychology. My wife is a psychologist.

Interesting. But it is definitely my observation that people can and do act "wilder" on vacation than in regular life. College girls certainly do not act the same in Cancun as they do on the Texas A&M campus, that's for sure.


102 posted on 08/07/2005 9:24:21 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: GarySpFc

Oh my gosh! Dave Holloway says he asked a source today about Joran having 9 attorneys and was corrected...it's 15 attorneys for Joran.


103 posted on 08/07/2005 9:26:21 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Are there even 15 lawyers IN aruba??


104 posted on 08/07/2005 9:28:05 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Parzival
Of course, that's the mistery.

It's not a mystery to me, he lied because he did something terribly wrong....What is your innocent explanation of their lies is what I was asking...

105 posted on 08/07/2005 9:28:33 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Parzival

" We would not be devoting 13 threads with 2000+ posts each to it if it were easy, would we?""


I don't recall you ever posting on any of the Natalee threads before today. I find it strange that your first post would be to worry about the simple word - definately.

It was my opinion and I stand by it.


106 posted on 08/07/2005 9:29:36 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: bonfire

SOmeone posted today (on the previous thread) there are 90 on the island {of no crime}


107 posted on 08/07/2005 9:30:22 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: bonfire

Yes, I read about Aruba attorneys today and there are many. I forget the number, but remember it worked out to about 1 attorney per 850 of the population with a total population of about 77,000. I'll let someone else do the math. lol


108 posted on 08/07/2005 9:31:48 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Pepper777

Actually if you look at his (or her) previous posts there hasn't been one in several months--I wish we could see IP addresses of posters it would help keep track of the multi-named posters. (Not that I'm accusing of that, I just think it would be a cool thing to be able to see) that and an x function to block out posters you didn't want to read.


109 posted on 08/07/2005 9:32:27 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Parzival

Parzival,
Are you new on this thread? I was not in Aruba that night with Natalee or you either. All eighteen year old girls morals, are not reflected in your random sample hypothesis.

I am a sporting and betting man. I will truthfully say and bet Natalee was a young lady of high morals, integrity and character above reproach.

I would suggest, if this incident had been about consensual sex between Urine and Natalee. Well Natalee would still be here with us. These concocted lies that these three pieces of human excretement have constantly purported,reek of rape and murder to the tenth degree.

I call to mind the size of Deepak's small automobile, the compostion of Urine's extremely large frame. Now do you
honestly think a girl of Natalee's upbringing would be engaging in consensual sex in the back seat of a thimble?

I would whole heartedly say a forced rape/murder occurred in that back seat, but not consensual sex by any means.

You have a right to your opinion in this travesty of justice and possible rape homicide. This thread is Pro-Natalee Holloway and 99%-100% I do not appreciate any slams against our missing/murdered daughter.

I hope you understand my point in this matter. I ask you to get on board, The Good Ship "we support Natalee."
To put this politely, either you are with us or against on this tragic event that has befallen one of our American Daughters.

In closing, knock and the door shall be opened, seek and ye shall find and ask and ye shall receive. Please join us in the quest for truth and justice for Natalee Holloway, "One of Americca's Finest."

So Mote It Be,
NSNR


110 posted on 08/07/2005 9:33:46 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: justche

It *definately* would be interesting to see if a poster uses multiple names, for sure. :)


111 posted on 08/07/2005 9:34:34 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: justche
I wish we could see IP addresses of posters it would help keep track of the multi-named posters. (Not that I'm accusing of that, I just think it would be a cool thing to be able to see) that and an x function to block out posters you didn't want to read.

Now that is a snappy idea...

112 posted on 08/07/2005 9:34:47 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

"You have a right to your opinion in this travesty of justice and possible rape homicide. This thread is Pro-Natalee Holloway and 99%-100% I do not appreciate any slams against our missing/murdered daughter. ""

Very well said!!!


113 posted on 08/07/2005 9:36:58 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat
Hey, TexKat, buy the time you make you make your next trip, hopefully The Oasis will be completed.

The fire just devastated all of us natives, as it truly was an oasis. I cannot tell you how many times, in olden days: drinks on the decks of the Oasis with sunsets like you've never seen, then down the road to The County Line for dinner. You got half the deal.

Food now is really good at the Oasis, but still, there is a warm spot for tradition.
114 posted on 08/07/2005 9:37:15 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: rolling_stone

> It's not a mystery to me, he lied because he did something
> terribly wrong....What is your innocent explanation of their
> lies is what I was asking

You don't know what happened either. Not really. "Something" is very vague indeed.

And I do not claim he is innocent. I just claim that we do not know what happened and that he did not necessarily comitt a rape just because you like to think a girl like Natalee "would not do something like that".


115 posted on 08/07/2005 9:37:28 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Pepper777

I don't think the word "definitely" is the problem.

The majority of posters on these threads, having the opinion that Natalee didn't go wild and initiate sex with three strangers, is the "problem".

IMO, of course...


116 posted on 08/07/2005 9:38:11 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Pepper777

> I don't recall you ever posting on any of the Natalee
> threads before today.

For the most time, I lurk. Nothing wrong with that.


117 posted on 08/07/2005 9:38:32 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Jrabbit

Darn it! We almost made it all weekend without breaking any furniture!


118 posted on 08/07/2005 9:43:12 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Parzival

You still avoid the question, last time why did the boys lie? What is your innocent explanation? I'm dying to hear it,,,,,


119 posted on 08/07/2005 9:44:12 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: justche; RGVTx

Anyone else notice how BLANTANT the VDS family is?? They don't even TRY to look innocent. These people have some balls.


120 posted on 08/07/2005 9:45:02 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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