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Rich Liberals Vow to Fund Think Tanks - Aim Is to Compete With Conservatives
Washington Post ^ | August 7, 2005 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 08/08/2005 4:32:54 AM PDT by summer

At least 80 wealthy liberals have pledged to contribute $1 million or more apiece to fund a network of think tanks and advocacy groups to compete with the potent conservative infrastructure built up over the past three decades.

The money will be channeled through a new partnership called the Democracy Alliance,
which was founded last spring -- the latest in a series of liberal initiatives as the Democratic Party and its allies continue to struggle with the loss of the House and the Senate in 1994 and the presidency in 2000. Many influential Democratic contributors were left angry and despairing over the party's poor showing in last year's elections, and are looking for what they hope will be more effective ways to invest their support.

Financial commitments totaling at least $80 million over the next five years generated by the Democracy Alliance in recent months -- at a time when some liberal groups, such as the George Soros-backed America Coming Together, are floundering -- suggest that the group is becoming a player in the long-term effort to reinvigorate the left. The group has a goal of raising $200 million -- a sum that would inevitably come in part at the expense of more traditional Democratic groups, although alliance officials say donors have committed to maintaining past contribution levels....

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KEYWORDS: conservatives; democracyalliance; fundingtheleft; guccimarxist; kerrydefeat; liberals; politics; thinktanks
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Alliance chairman Steven Gluckstern, a retired investment banker, said that President Bush's victory over Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) last year after millions of dollars had been poured into pro-Democratic "527" groups caused many contributors to think that a dramatically new approach is needed....

Yes, one that would require Dems to win elections.

I'm sure that's what some Dem donors are thinking.
1 posted on 08/08/2005 4:32:55 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Would it be more like "feelings tanks", since liberalism is about feelings, not thought?

-Eric

2 posted on 08/08/2005 4:34:07 AM PDT by E Rocc (If we're all God's Children, what does that say about marriage?)
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To: All

Simon Rosenberg is helping the new Democracy Alliance. (Hans Ericsson - AP)
3 posted on 08/08/2005 4:35:21 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Liberals. Thinking.

That would be novel.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

4 posted on 08/08/2005 4:35:27 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: E Rocc

I don't know, but I did a search for this article and was surprised it hadn't been posted.


5 posted on 08/08/2005 4:36:33 AM PDT by summer
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To: E Rocc
More from article:

"It wasn't only the failure to win, it was the question 'What does it take to win?' " Gluckstern said. "Among the lessons learned was that to bring back the progressive majority in this country is not just a periodic election investment strategy."

The Democracy Alliance will act as a financial clearing house. Its staff members and board of directors will develop a lineup of established and proposed groups that they believe will develop and promote ideas on the left. To fulfill their million-dollar pledge, each partner must agree to give $200,000 or more a year for at least five years to alliance-endorsed groups.

The alliance is the brainchild of longtime Democratic strategist Rob Stein, who spent years studying conservative groups -- in particular their success in sustaining GOP politicians and achieving many of their policy goals. Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, is working with Stein and is a leading promoter of his effort.

Rosenberg said liberals and Democrats now face a conservative "information-age Tammany Hall, a 21st century political machine, that is simply better than what we have on our side.

"The infrastructure we have was built for a different time and mission. It was built around the congressional majority we had for 60 years in the 20th century, the labor movement and the urban-ethnic city machines," he added.

As alliance officials see it, many liberal groups are designed to protect an agenda that was enacted by past Democratic majorities -- as opposed to generating new ideas and communication strategies to win support from voters who do not belong to labor or other traditionally Democratic constituencies....
6 posted on 08/08/2005 4:37:46 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Why don't the LIBS give the money to the POOR ?

Most Libs don't know how to change their CROOKED ways.


7 posted on 08/08/2005 4:40:14 AM PDT by Zenith
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To: summer

They gonna hire Al Franken to think in the tank for them?


8 posted on 08/08/2005 4:49:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: arthurus

Al franken is already in the tank for them!


9 posted on 08/08/2005 4:52:36 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: summer

""It wasn't only the failure to win, it was the question 'What does it take to win?' " Gluckstern said. "Among the lessons learned was that to bring back the progressive majority in this country is not just a periodic election investment strategy." "

Hmm... is this a trick question? How about telling the truth, not being anti American and having an idea that doesn't date back to Marx? I would say that is a good start.


10 posted on 08/08/2005 4:53:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: summer

the libs got more think tanks already out there than cesspool tanks
you gotta give the libs credit for their consistency, any problem they have just throw more money at it


11 posted on 08/08/2005 4:54:04 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: summer

Liberals always 'say' they are going to give money, In the end, maybe a couple dollars will be given


12 posted on 08/08/2005 4:54:44 AM PDT by CarlEOlsoniii (McCarthy goes after Communists with a shotgun; I go after them with a rifle -Nixon)
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To: summer
Well, they'll promise to fund them but we all know that it will take grant money from inner-city youth programs to really get them off the ground.
13 posted on 08/08/2005 4:55:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: summer

Isn't a liberal think tank an oxymoron? Gee, I'd love to hear some rational ideas for their beliefs, lol.


14 posted on 08/08/2005 4:56:09 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: summer
$80 million bucks to come up with an idea?

BWAHAHAHA

snicker, snicker

BWAHAHAHA!

They can't figure out why they lose?

15 posted on 08/08/2005 4:58:30 AM PDT by N. Theknow (If Social Security is so good - why aren't members of Congress in it?)
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To: summer
and the urban-ethnic city machines

What a telling phrase

16 posted on 08/08/2005 4:59:39 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: summer
Houston Chronicle's take on this posted yesterday, Sun, 8/7.
17 posted on 08/08/2005 5:01:37 AM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: summer
Message to The Democratic Crime Syndicate:

Thinking does not cost money. You have the right to remain silent.

18 posted on 08/08/2005 5:02:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: summer
Given the names quoted in this article, it appears that these "think tanks" will be largely funded and staffed by Jewish backers. In effect, this means people with a New York/Hollywood mind set and we all know how much appeal this crowd has with red state voters.
Once the money is ponied up, the elitist hangers on will start to circle hoping to use family and political connections for an easy ride on the think tank gravy train - with talk show face time thrown is as an added bonus.
I see an operation full of sound and fury and, in terms of impact on the Democratic Party platform, signifying nothing.
19 posted on 08/08/2005 5:04:20 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: summer

Why bother when they can simply embezzle money from tax-supported charities?


20 posted on 08/08/2005 5:06:02 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Since when was there ever a progressive majority?

What the Republicans have done is to mobilize their voters as good as the Dems have done.

Ideals, as oppossed to ideas, are not "thought up," they are ingrained belief systems that need no special packaging or clever message, and until they understand that, they will being going down this road.


21 posted on 08/08/2005 5:10:00 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: summer
"It wasn't only the failure to win, it was the question 'What does it take to win?' " Gluckstern said. "Among the lessons learned was that to bring back the progressive majority in this country is not just a periodic election investment strategy."

"Progressive majority"? Oh, please. They don't understand anything do they?

22 posted on 08/08/2005 5:10:18 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: summer

A retired investment banker hmmm? Looks pretty young. Nice to know the Dems remain the party of the little guy, the working man.


23 posted on 08/08/2005 5:12:35 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: summer

Small problem: to have a think tank . . . one must think.


24 posted on 08/08/2005 5:13:21 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: summer

Aren't think tanks supposed to rely on facts for their research? The libs wouldn't know a "fact" if it came up at bit them on the ass.


25 posted on 08/08/2005 5:14:13 AM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: N. Theknow
$80 million bucks to come up with an idea? BWAHAHAHA snicker, snicker BWAHAHAHA! They can't figure out why they lose?

Sounds like a lot until you consider that the late Digital Equipment Corporation spent $200 million to create a new corporate image and after all that money had been spent simply changed its logo from blue to the color of dried blood. Then DEC went out of business.


26 posted on 08/08/2005 5:16:47 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: summer

Thinking sounds like a great plan for the Liberals...just as long as they don't have to actually DO something...


27 posted on 08/08/2005 5:17:48 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (When is a Tagline not a Tagline?)
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To: summer

We already have plenty of liberal think tanks. They aren't worth their money now so why do these people think new ones will accomplish anything? Let em spend their money.


29 posted on 08/08/2005 5:20:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: summer
At least 80 wealthy liberals have pledged to contribute $1 million

It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea. - Robert Anton Wilson

Eighty million dollars should reduce that time by about half.

30 posted on 08/08/2005 5:20:20 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: summer
I am fascinated by this idea. I see some parallels to what the Conservative movement did in the mid-1960's. Their party was losing elections, and they made a long term commitment to present their ideas and transform them into a majority way of thinking with voters.

However, if you look at what the Conservative movement did in the early days, they focused on getting rid of the kooks, i.e. KKK Members, John Birch Society members, etc.

This is where progressives are going wrong. They still have the Al Frankens and Michael Moores hailed by the liberal establishment and the party that they closely identify themselves, the Democratic Party.

They must also humble themselves to the mindset that the majority of the country does not believe in their values and they must figure out a way to bring them over to their side without coming across as if the voter is an idiot. Much harder when the Conservative movement has become the market leader.

Even if this effort fizzles, they still have the mainstream media, Universities and Hollywood to promote the hollow values and failed policies.

To me this sounds like an internet start up with no real business model to generate profitibility, just a lot of press and hype.

31 posted on 08/08/2005 5:26:26 AM PDT by GWB00
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To: bill1952

I totally agree with you. The left tries to pick up one state each election as their method for winning.

They know they cannot win 80+ percent of the country so they win their heavily leftist states and try to rob one, like Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.

We are closer to winning in a landslide then they are to winning the White House.


32 posted on 08/08/2005 5:27:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: N. Theknow

The Brits call failure, "deferred success."


33 posted on 08/08/2005 5:30:00 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: summer

The "whining and always blame others" tank?


34 posted on 08/08/2005 5:37:00 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: bill1952
Ideals, as oppossed to ideas, are not "thought up," they are ingrained belief systems that need no special packaging or clever message, and until they understand that, they will being going down this road.

Shh! do you realise you could have sold that statement to the Dems for $80 mill?

35 posted on 08/08/2005 5:39:17 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: summer
I'm sure the DUmmies will be screaming about the injustice of the Rich pushing their viewpoint on the rest of society... right?
36 posted on 08/08/2005 5:46:38 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: summer

Click to this site to see a list of the Democracy Alliance contacts! http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/viewIndividuals.asp?catid=


37 posted on 08/08/2005 5:59:05 AM PDT by JLGALT
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To: pabianice
Sounds like a lot until you consider that the late Digital Equipment Corporation spent $200 million to create a new corporate image and after all that money had been spent simply changed its logo from blue to the color of dried blood. Then DEC went out of business.

Wasn't it Digital that rented every hotel room in Boston and also a cruise liner in Boston Harbor for a big sales meeting/exposition/wine $ dine/customer-seeking week long event in the 80's?

38 posted on 08/08/2005 6:08:09 AM PDT by N. Theknow (If Social Security is so good - why aren't members of Congress in it?)
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To: summer

Getting the money will be the easy part - finding some dems who can actually think will be impossible. As another poster suggested, a "feelings tank" would be more practical for them.


39 posted on 08/08/2005 6:10:38 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: summer

I hope they continue to get their message out.


40 posted on 08/08/2005 6:14:19 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodisiac!)
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To: summer

I rather imagine that a "liberal think tank" will stand in the same relationship to a think tank as an abortuary with regard to a legitimate hospital.


41 posted on 08/08/2005 6:16:06 AM PDT by dsc
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To: GWB00
There is a significant difference between the American left of 2005 and American conservatism of 40 years ago. The racists, conspiracy theorists, libertarians, and other marginal people were not the mainstream of 1960s conservatism, in either the rank and file or the leadership. OTOH, the gay activists, the America is always in the wrong crowd, radical feminists, black and Hispanic exploiters of white guilt, advocates of permissiveness and extreme tolerance, and others of their ilk are the mainstream of the Democratic Party. Ever since the McGovern Presidential campaign, this crowd has become ever more ensconced in the party. The old style Democrats of the New Deal and Great Society eras have been marginalized.
42 posted on 08/08/2005 6:18:26 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: summer

You can spend millions to drill a well, but if you're drilling in Death Valley, you ain't gonna find a drop of water..


43 posted on 08/08/2005 6:24:54 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: 84rules
The libs wouldn't know a "fact" if it came up at bit them on the ass.

And that, my FRiend, is exactly why this is such a good thing. The Dems need to start THINKING about their positions instead of feeling them. They've lost in the arena of ideas for the last ten years because they've not been thinking critically about their policies. This will be good for the Dems, and in the long run, good for the country.

44 posted on 08/08/2005 6:28:18 AM PDT by Terabitten (Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: summer

I wonder if there are so many RICH liberals because they lack ethics. Gathering money is easy, if you are willing to do anything and say anything. Making money ethically is more difficult, but a lot more productive to society.


45 posted on 08/08/2005 6:28:35 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: summer

This is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The same people who gave to the DNC or ACT will now give to this group. And that nincompoop, Howard Dean, will still complain about Reublicans and their rich friends. That's Howard Dean of Dean Witter fame, right?


46 posted on 08/08/2005 6:31:15 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Tribune7

Lots of retired investment bankers still have acne. Nice to see that the Commie embraced capitalism when it suited him.


47 posted on 08/08/2005 6:31:43 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: JLGALT

Wow, lots of middle eastern names, Hollywood idiots, and the "not-liberally biased we tell ya!" media names. LOL!


48 posted on 08/08/2005 6:39:05 AM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: summer

Rosenberg is a trust fund baby, fat playground kid, son of a Park Avenue investment banker and Yale grad. He is continually begging funds for the (non-tax deductable) New Democratic Network.


49 posted on 08/08/2005 7:02:02 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: summer

Why should liberals fund a think tank because they don't think.


50 posted on 08/08/2005 7:06:27 AM PDT by DarthVader (Islam is not something to be understood, it is something that must be utterly destroyed)
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