Cindy Sheehan: "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."

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[Sam Hill]

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  That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
  Love
 

  Cindy Sheehan
 

  March 15, 2005
 

  To Whom it May Concern:
 

  Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.

[SNIP]

  I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
 

  The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
 

  Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
 

  It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
 

  I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.

[samantha]

What was hard for my Spouse to fathom was that Pat Robertson and the Christian right love Israel and in particular Jerusalem. They really consider this the "holy Land" and Jesus was a Jew. This compared to liberal Jews in America that sound more like the Jew hating Frenchies. A lot of American Rabbi's that are not Conservatives do not even stick up for Jews and Israel, and then wonder why their Temple memberships get lower and lower.

[MamaB]

In that letter, she was critical of Israel. She said something about it being ok for Israel to occupy Palestine. She also said the US and Israel had contaminated the whole country. I do not know if she means Iraq, Israel or Palestine on that last.

[ariamne]

most Jews seem to suffer for cognitive dissonance and will vote for the Demos for many years to come. It is like a religion for them.

I think that is way harsh, liberty, and you are tarring us all with the same brush. Secular Jews are like Secular Gentiles, they tend to go liberal. Religious Jews are usually very conservative. And I'll tell you something else; many Jews, even secular, are leaving the Dem party because of its growing hate for Jews and Israel. I am one of them. So don't tell me Dem politics is a religion to me. I put my faith in God first, then the Republican party!

[Sam Hill]

For (I hope) the last frickin time, she did not criticize Israel, she criticized American foreign policy.

You sound awfully smug for someone so ill-informed.

Sunday 7th August 2005 (19h37) :
Cindy Sheehan at the Veterans for Peace National Convention
6 comment(s).

You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine...

(massive round of applause)

And if you think I won’t say bullshit to the President, I say move on, cuz I’ll say what’s on my mind.

BELLACIAO - Cindy Sheehan at the Veterans for Peace National Convention - Cindy Sheehan - Collective Bellaciao
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7436

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel.

To all those fellow FReepers who stubbornly insist -- in the face of all reason and logic -- that Neo-con" isn't really the radical left's unlovely little code phrase du jour for "Da JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ": PLEASE NOTE.

[veronica]

Gone. :)

[Right Wing Professor]

Its code for conservative jew.

I don't mind the company I'm in, but I am not going through a bris.

[Mo1]

You're welcome Miss Marple

Hey hipaatwo ... are you listening to Dom G by any chance??

I missed the beginning of his show ... he mentioned something about Cindy being on .. and that he will try and get her back on

I'm wondering if she hung up on him or if she bailed on him??

[MamaB]

As someone who has lost a child, I know the devastation that happens to the family. But, this has gone entirely too far. Where are her parents, other relatives or friends? Do they want to associate with her?

[backhoe]

Code Pinko-- the Cindy Sheehan affair ( click the picture )

[MamaB]

Isn't he going down there or is he already there?

[Sam Hill]

"She'll have Will Pitt on her side, to the end."

She does and did when she was writing. She and he were just both to STUPID to understand they were saying the same things.

[Sam Hill]

That is an ad completely funded by Soros.

[iconoclast]

It's a part and parcel of leftist talking points and believe me, they do hate the Jews. It's part of what drove me away from the Democratic party,

Intriguing theory.

To hold water, one would think that Jewish Democrats would be an oxymoron. Hardly the case, last time I looked.

Have you pondered that contradiction ?

[oldleft]

[ariamne]

I know how you feel. My father was Christian, mother Jewish and we had a very WASPY last name. Plus, I favor my father with blonde hair and blue eyes and have what my ex-boyfriend called "classic shiksa looks". It never ceases to amaze me how free people felt to trash Jews to me because they assumed that I wasn't one, and that I felt the same way. The looks on their faces when I set them straight is pretty comical.

[Sam Hill]

"And the other thing I want him to tell me is 'just what was the noble cause Casey died for?' Was it freedom and democracy? Bullshit! He died for oil. He died to make your friends richer. He died to expand American imperialism in the Middle East. We're not freer here, thanks to your PATRIOT Act. Iraq is not free. You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," she exclaimed."

Action & Activism: What One Mom Has to Say to George Bush http://electroniciraq.net/news/printer2098.shtml

[Major_Risktaker]

Iraq gives ‘martyrdom bonus’ for families of Palestinian suicide bombers By Ferry Biedermann
Inter Press Service

Iraq is said to have distributed some 35 million dollars to families of Palestinians who were killed or wounded in the intifada resistance and towards some reconstruction of demolished buildings.

One very controversial aspect of that aid is the difference it makes between “regular martyrs” and those who have died in attacks on Israelis. The families of the regular victims get “just” 10,000 dollars, rather than the 25,000 dollars for the families of the martyred militants.

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post 57
disagree with her, but how is she being anti-semitic?

"anti-semitic" is very over used word.

post 77
She's blamimg the Jews for the war in Iraq. Don't you know Bush is just a puppet of the evil Jews?

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Bush is not a puppet but an ALLY.

Something had to be done and Isreal could politically attack Iraq unilaterally without causing a another War with Arabs.

When I debate this issue with Democrates many believe Iraq was Israel's problem. They say Israel's terroist problems have become America's as well.

Cindy Sheehan is looking at the little picture, her own.

[tessalu]

Why did this silly woman raise her son up to be in the army?
Did she have no sense?

[Sam Hill]

"We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy."

"You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," she exclaimed."

You see, the attacks on 9/11 were justified because Israel exists.