Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill
All we needed to do was stop wasting energy, lessen demand for energy by ending population growth from immigration, and develop alternative energy sources--which could have been as simple as bicycles or as complex as fusion reactors.
So we should have used the government to force changes of behavior on the American people (ie taxing oil).
The Soviet Union was much less of a threat than we thought.
Tell that to the people they enslaved.
I see no reason why they should not have continued to expand, if we did not confron them starting in 1947.
You seem to be Agrarian, not a Jeffersonian. Are you a fan of Russell Weaver?
The 9/11 terrorists thought of using crop dusters, but that wouldn't have worked in or near a city. OTOH, it would be VERY effective in very rural areas; or don't you plan on growing your own food?
Nukes are also WMD. And even dirty bombs will kill plenty of people who live in a no man's land of your own design.
What? You think that plague and small pox have never been found in rural settings? Are you for real ?
If EVERYONE were to leave the cities and disperse, just how much open space do you think there'd be then? The government owns a lot of our open spaces, large agribusinesses ( food farming as well as lumber ) own a lot of land, and there are great swaths of uninhabitabl land. So, just WHERE is everyone going to move to and still be so far away from everyone else, that your ridiculous scenario works?
And since like Mao Tse Tong, you want to depopulate the cities and suburban areas, just were and how is there to be specialized hospitals, T.V. and radio shows, publishing houses,museums, manufacturing of things, etc.?
You really do come across as something rather like an old hippie back to nature lout/Marxist/Luddite/white supremacist combination. And like them, your views are unfeasible, ridiculous, and not at all well thought out. And, you are a coward to boot. Hardly what one imagines a Conservative to be, In fact, from your posts, I doubt that you are one.
Let me ask you this: on that show, did she stand up and say something really ugly? I think I remember her!
FR's infiltrated with anti-war weirdos. This thread is full of them. Taquinas and iconoclast are easy to see at a glance.
She's positively Bill Burkett-ish.
Taxing oil would have been a great idea--
PROVIDING the extra revenue gained by the government would allow income taxes to be reduced in proportion--
But we know that part would NEVER happen.
But then they could have at least used the extra revenue to research alternative energy sources.
But they'd just steal the money, like they always do.
Well don't blame me if we haven't enough room.
I've been railing against America's run away population growth from immigration for nearly half a century.
No, it's Liberals who hate America for the foreign policy. The Islamofascists hate America for the simple reason that it isn't Islamofascistic.
And by the way... If the Iraq war was done to aid Israel, someone ought to tell Israel. Last I remember their gov't opposed the invasion.
You may look up to St Francis and the hermits of long ago, some of whom lived atop huge pillars, many of whom lived in caves and were filthy, flea riddled, and depended upon others for their sustenance, but hardly anyone, then or now, wants to live like that. And in this day and age, since you are so miserable with your plight, that that is your own vision of perfection, I suggest that you follow your heart and try it out. As for it being the only good solution for everyone else, well, it isn't and that's that!
Not everyone, during the Black Plague, left every city it hit and went to live in the country. And yes,some of them survived.
In 1918, nobody left the cities, to escape the Spanish or Swine flu!
And during Elizabeth the first reign people were NOT running away to the country, to escape the many small pox epidemics.
And in a more recent time, people in America were not, not, NOT leaving cities in droves, to escape from wave after wave of polio surges.
A few people left lower Manhattan, after 9/11, but where did they go? Most went to the suburbs; either of N.J. or Conn., or even N.Y., though some did move farther away.
The Amish do NOT live in nowheresville. They live in clusters and rather densely populated villages.
Dailykos
by CindySheehan [Subscribe]
Wed Aug 10th, 2005 at 22:37:45 PDT
Today started at 4am when the rain started blowing into my tent and my head and my feet started getting soaked and the thunder and lightening came over my tent. I was really frightened for my life, so I abandoned ship and went into Crawford.
CindySheehan's diary :: ::
By the time we made our way through the floods and got into Crawford, I had a fever, sore throat, and bad headache. So I was made to rest and not have any interviews until noon.
We had a little bit of trouble with locals today. We are beginning to feel a little unwelcome here. One lady almost ran over a film crew that was filming a commercial today. She screamed at us that the neighbors are really mad at ...so we moved down the road to our closest neighbor who is very sweet. Her husband is a medic who just got home from Iraq.
Again, I did tons of interviews. It looks like I will be on the cover of People Magazine. Time Magazine, Vanity Fair and Oprah's magazine will be interviewing me also.
It was great having the other GSFP and MFSO there to help me with interviews and greeting all of the hundreds of people who came out from all over the country to be with us today. We were hassled by the Sheriff because there were too many cars out there. Our little Bush Town has grown to full capacity. The town Sheriff said we can put up tents and RV's in the town stadium. There are wall to wall sleeping bags here at the Peace House.
Due to the generosity of you all, the Crawford Peace House has gotten over 30,000 dollars and GSFP has gotten a lot of donations too. I got about 2 and a half dozen bouquets of flowers from all over everywhere. I am so amazed and overwhelmed by the support and love we are getting from everywhere.
As for Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, Matt Drudge, etc...nothing you can say can hurt me or make me stop what we are doing. We are working for peace with justice. We are using peaceful means and the truth to do it. I guess the truth frightens people. It frightens them so much, they have to resort to telling lies to rebut my arguments. They are despicable human beings and not even worth our concern. Bill O'Reilly had the nerve to invite me on his show again today. But, Dolores Kesterson, another Gold Star Families for Peace member who also had a terrible experience with meeting George and she kicked his butt.
Tonight we are still on arrest alert...so we shall see.
Peace soon.
When are you going to suggest the need for RE-EDUCATION CAMPS?
She's crazy as a loon....and she's here in Texas...gack!
How have you managed to stay this long of FR and still know and understand virtually no history at all?
The hospitals and some factory production--providing we reverse offshoring--could be a problem.
But probably could be gotten around.
Perhaps just the hospitals could be placed in underground bunkers.
And much manufacturing, publishing, entertainment, etc., could be done at home (desktop publishing, podcasts, home-made goods, made better than ever thanks to modern tools and computerization).
Although I personally could do without most of those things, anyway.
But don't get me wrong, we would also attack terrorists who attack us, but we should otherwise avoid making other people mad at us.
Most likely the 911 terrorists--most of them Saudis; none were Iraqi--attacked us because they saw us as propping up a dictatorship in Saudi Arabia.
And so we also become the targets of Saudi Arabia's revolutionaries.
Imagine how the Thirteen Colonies would have felt about any country who aided King George against us.
OMG...she and her whacked out followers are too close to Bush. Now they're letting them set up camp! WHY???
I guess I'll have to go down there on Sat. If thousands don't show up, I'm gonna be very cranky!!
When did your ancestors come to America?
Have you always been an anachronistic member of the long defunct KNOW NOTHINGS?
But it would be easier for them to spread out a little more, than for modern city dwellers.
And there are people on FR defending this media whore, who desecrates her own son's memory with every word she speaks and writes. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!
HTG, I just cannot take much more of this woman.
I didn't say shutting them down was a good idea, did I?
However, now that you bring the matter up, I do not believe in building any more atomic power plants than would be absolutely necessary,
And that means we must stop wasting energy and end immigration, for the more people we import, the more atomic power plants will be needed.
And I am definitely against building nuke plants to meet the added power consumption caused by immigration.
Conserve and end immigration, and I would not begrudge you your nuclear power plants.
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