Posted on 08/11/2005 11:55:37 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
You are, of course, within your rights to disagree with those laws.
"Businesses are private property."
That said, I work for a retail store. What if the CEO decided that he doesnt want Hispanic folks coming into our stores, are you saying that he should be within his right to bar them entrance? What do you think would happen to our company?
And my disagreement with those laws are based on private property rights and freedom, not race, as I was accused of earlier.
Thank you Mr Crow.
The store's management would probably be charged with some violations of unconstitutional federal laws...but what should happen is that decent people stop patronzing the store, people protest outside the store and the store is forced to change its policy
Yes, the owners should be withing their rights to deny access to whomever they please, and, your company would probably lose a lot of business and go down the drain.
But, it shouldn't be up to the Gov't to make sure you practice good business practices at all times.
"What do you think would happen to our company?"
Well, that's the whole point, isn't it? Your CEO could make that decision and should be entitled to. That said, it would be a stupid move. If being mean and stupid were against the law, Cindy Sheenan would already be in prison.
"who else but an idiot would, right off the bat, reduce his potential pool of buyers by deciding he's not going to sell to someone based on some arbitrary characteristic?"
Well, that being the case, maybe the law should be changed, so that people can discriminate based on whatever, and idiots should be barred from operating businesses. /sarc
Seriously though, if the laws were changed to reflect your belief of freedom of association, I feel that there'd be a lot more segregation going on, which I thought was something this country was trying to move away from. I'm sure there are many people in this country (of all races) who would love to be able to discriminate for such petty reasons.
The best businesses get repeat business.
"Thank you Mr Crow."
Jeez, grow up, Mr. PC police. Race is not what he was talking about and you know it. Nobody here is saying the property manager was even remotely right in what he did. We are discussing private ownership of property and yes, people should be allowed to direct the use of their property as they see fit and be prepared to deal with the consequences.
Oh, my, it's hard to believe this kind of thing still goes on and on this scale - a big resort town like Myrtle Beach and a large group? Did he know they were a black family when he took their reservation? It was ok for him to honor their reservation and bill them, but not okay for them to swim, even though that is included in the fee? Did he think he could get away with it? And this, after North Carolina worked hard to rebuild tourism and counter claims by the NAACP. Yikes. What an idiot.
On that point, I agree with you, Dolphan. I was trying to be careful not to accuse you of racism.
I agree that the laws are out of synch with the constitution, but for now people like the resort manager have to work with the laws we have. He could have even put up a credible defense if he had said "with all the children and no lifeguard at the pool, I can't afford the liability or risk."
One thing is certain, though. You will NEVER hear the real other side from the MSM.
Remember last month when some hoity-toity store in Paris wouldn't let Oprah in - AFTER HOURS - along with her entourgage? The MSM tried to convince us it was racism on the part of the store.
Same thing here.... The MSM will holler the race card all day long.... Why? God only knows.
But maybe 100 people in that pool area is a safety code violation. If not, it should be. Maybe that family was causing noise in the pool area after 11 PM? There could be a dozen valid reasons why they were denied access to the pool.
But if you leave it to the MSM, you will only hear what they want you to hear.
"I'm gonna get nailed for this but...private property owners should be allowed to restrict/admit whoever they please onto all or any of their property."
I'd like to keep clueless idiots off my property but they blend in with all the others.
Could you help me out with that:
*Hands Dolphan a t-shirt printed with "Clueless Idiot" *
Now put that on and stay off my property.
Yeah but refusing to allow black people to use the pool when you allow white people to use it is clearly a civil rights violation. We don't want to go back there. Don't hide behind that "PC" crap.
But then, where would you live?
This is a BUSINESS- a RENTAL PROPERTY- which is governed by certain laws, including those against racism.
The days of "white's only" businesses are OVER.
This is not about property rights.
yes if it happened as stated, but I am wondering what is the safe capacity of the pool? and how many from a family of moer than 100 were trying to use it?
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