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'The New Gay Teenager'
NARTH ^ | May 23 2005 | Frank York

Posted on 08/13/2005 10:25:42 PM PDT by scripter

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To: CarrotAndStick
C'mon....real little boys all think girls are 'icky', even if cute. Have you never read Calvin & Hobbes?!
21 posted on 08/14/2005 3:19:49 AM PDT by cambridge ( I was sympathetic to her before I was against her.)
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To: BookaT
Keep in mind this guy's base of operation...

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Things have certainly changed everywhere. ONE generation ago, parents big worry was grades. And now? It's a constant battle over the physical and spiritual welfare, on top of marks. Everyone wants a piece of your kids. Remember Channel One? They promised educational TV in class would modernize education and give more time to teacher/child interaction. What crap! It degenerated into commercialism and indoctrination in no time. Who could have ever imagined gay activists getting class time to indoctrinate and normalize homosexuality and getting FULL support from teacher's unions and school boards. And now, Ritalin and Prozac for 7 year-olds- to raise their grades, to give them the best shot at life. Horsesh!t! ADHD is a marketing invention of Ciba Gigi-period. The disorder simply didn't exist when I was in school-now 1/3 of kids have this "physical" disease? Riiight. Don't look to the FDA to step in and put a stop to it. Big Pharma owns academic medicine and the DSM. These people are FRIENDS with each other since med school and business college. They golf and go to the same spas together. Could they stop the massive fraud behind Vioxx, PhenPhen, Progesterone, Ritalin and off-labelling SSRIs? Poor kids. You're right, Booka, it is all gone. School is a very dangerous place in 2005. (/rant)

22 posted on 08/14/2005 4:07:55 AM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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23 posted on 08/14/2005 4:24:44 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: cambridge

I've never felt my sexuality to be fluid.




I still remember (when I was about 12) the first time my sexuality became fluid .


24 posted on 08/14/2005 4:34:29 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: scripter
High school children are already complaining that there are only two choices to select for gender on some forms.

Then they should be told to get the f$%k over it because only two genders exist.

25 posted on 08/14/2005 5:13:59 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03
only two genders exist

To you and me, sure. For today's youth (and some adults), it's all about how you feel on the inside at any specific time. The issue of gay teens being attracted to male or females could be the launching of a new type of sexuality with a mix of transgenderism.

26 posted on 08/14/2005 8:54:17 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: Antioch
He's gayer than gay...he's meta-gay...he's transcendentally gay...he's fabulous.

( ;-D

27 posted on 08/14/2005 9:01:44 AM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: scripter

""Gay Cornell University Professor Ritch Savin-Williams argues that teenagers are rejecting gender categories in their pursuit of satisfying sexual relationships. And, he's encouraged by the trend."'

so homosexuality is a choice, not something your born with?


28 posted on 08/14/2005 9:02:33 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
so homosexuality is a choice, not something your born with?

That would be a logical conclusion to the article, but that's definitely not what they are trying to communicate. What's unfortunate is they can't see the obvious or they refuse to see the obvious.

29 posted on 08/14/2005 9:06:02 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: scripter

it is sort of like the left promoting pro-choice and pro-gay is something youre born with messages.

then I guess it is ok to abort fetuses that are suspected to be gay


30 posted on 08/14/2005 9:16:04 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: BookaT; Antioch
Well said (both of you).

we as a nation need to be more pissed.

I can't say this enough. Our culture needs to get educated on the subject and take action but few ever really do anything about it. IMO, more folks (many, many more) need to yank their kids out of public schools.

31 posted on 08/14/2005 9:18:55 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: cambridge

An average boy loses the 'icky' feeling they have for girls by age 7 - 8, after that, the 'icky' feeling is used due to peer pressure, when, deep inside, they don't consider girls to be that much 'icky'. 12 is a bit late, but don't worry, different people grow up differently.


32 posted on 08/14/2005 10:19:14 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: scripter
Savin-Williams observes: "Regardless of gender of person and partner, if an early sexual contact is not abusive or coercive, then it likely has a positive impact on adolescent and adult sexual arousal, pleasure, satisfaction, and acceptance of various sexual behaviors for self and others.

Sounds like a pedophile to me. Why isn't this pervert in prison?

33 posted on 08/14/2005 11:02:22 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: darkangel82
Sounds like a pedophile to me. Why isn't this pervert in prison?

Because in academia, gay activists have replaced the term pedophilia with the more benign "intergenerational love" That way predators like Savin-Williams can indulge and get funding for their perversions. Read this individual's published reseach- it's basically just his sickness dressed up in academic weasel words in his desperate attempt to feel normal.

34 posted on 08/14/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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To: Pharmboy
Could this prof BE any more repulsive? Mentally undressing those frat boys with his hollow possessed shark eyes.. yikes!

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35 posted on 08/15/2005 3:10:55 AM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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To: scripter

After the 9th circus ruling that we have no right to object to what is taught in public school, I'll definitely be finding a way to get my daughetr out.


36 posted on 11/08/2005 9:15:21 AM PST by Sterm26 (Indict....no, HANG Joe Wilson!)
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To: cambridge
I've never felt my sexuality to be fluid.

Mine is. I drift from blondes to brunettes to redheads, all in about an hour.

37 posted on 11/08/2005 9:18:01 AM PST by Always Right
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Professor Savin-Williams admits in Chapter 2 that gay or pro-gay researchers "invented" the gay teen. "Gay adolescence came to be what we researchers wanted it to be--what we were," says the author. (p. 23).

He admits he skewed the research, molded it to fit the researchers, misled teens - or what we used to call 'lied'. Little wonder, then, that he was such a follower of the 'research' of Kinsey et al.

In Chapter 7, "First Sex," Savin-Williams introduces the subject of gay childhood sexual experiences by noting that Alfred Kinsey and his associates were the first to systematically explore the "onset and nature of sexuality during childhood." (p. 133)

I wonder, does he follows up the research with the effects of his pan-sexuality tweaking - i.e. is it fair then given what he's said about how he's invented (misled) his research, to assume that some straight teens, teens without pan-sexual leanings, have been misled or coerced or suggested to try sexuality that didn't feel led to and may have led to conflict?

38 posted on 11/09/2005 9:08:05 AM PST by fortunecookie
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Dad Says His Son 'Damaged' by Homosexual Indoctrination at State-Sponsored Program
39 posted on 02/11/2006 2:37:41 PM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: scripter
I skimmed this.

With many relegating their kids to liberal preschools and public schools there is an OPEN encouragement and acceptance of this. They now have books for preschoolers and kindergartners praising being "gay". Such as this:

Gay Dads: A celebration of Fatherhood

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585422312/qid=1139699775/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-1126359-1237704?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Notice how they are all star reviews. They don't appear to allow reviews with less than 5 stars.

Here's another one:

How It Feels to Have a Gay or Lesbian Parent: A Book by Kids for Kids of All Ages

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1560234199/qid=1139700381/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-1126359-1237704?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

and another

What Are Parents?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0975369903/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/102-1126359-1237704?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

This book is directed to preschool and elementary kids. Heterosexual families are FROWNED ON.

Again directed to those in preschool and elementary school:

Emma and Meesha My Boy: A Two Mom Story

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1413416004/ref=pd_sim_b_3/102-1126359-1237704?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

Molly's Family

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0374350027/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/102-1126359-1237704?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

Felicia's Favorite Story

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0967446856/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/102-1126359-1237704?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

A review was negative so it was removed because it "offended" another homosexual reviewer. You see, on Amazon, you can't express your opinion if it hurts the feelings of a homosexual.

Okay, enough specifics on how homosexuals

ARE TARGETTING YOUR KIDS AT YOUNG AGES!
40 posted on 02/11/2006 3:53:06 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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