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Gaza Disengagement/Expulsion Live Thread
FR live thread | 7/14/2005 | none

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PDT by adam_az

Edited on 08/14/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Live thread for posting breaking news about the Gaza Explulsion which is set to begin within the hour...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: appeasement; arabs; deportation; disengagement; gaza; gushkatif; israel; judenrein; pullout; retreat; squatterremoval; suicide; terrorismpays
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To: Brad's Gramma

(Haaretz)Jihad militants hold 'celebrations of triumph' parade over pullout
By DPA

Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad arranged a midnight procession before dawn on Monday to celebrate the beginning of the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza Strip and northern West Bank.

Palestinian witnesses said that dozens of masked gunmen joined the procession to express joy at the beginning of the withdrawal, which will last for several weeks.

The procession under the theme "celebrations of triumph" began at Palestine Square in downtown Gaza City and took to the streets as militants in jeeps drove all around the city.

The procession reached the square of the unknown soldier in Gaza City as militants waved weapons including rifles and homemade missiles and fired into the air.

Marchers shouted that the withdrawal of the Israeli occupation was an achievement of Palestinian armed attacks. Several militants kneeled on the ground to express thanks for what they called "the victory that our people achieved throughout their sacrifices."

Abu Mohamed, one of the group's armed commanders, told reporters that the procession was part of the Palestinian and Islamic Jihad celebrations for the Israeli withdrawal and evacuation of settlements.

"The withdrawal of the enemy from part of our occupied territories is a big defeat to the Zionist enemy that is withdrawing under the strikes of Palestinian militant groups," said Abu Mohamed.

He said that his fighters "would never drop their arms unless the occupation ends in all the occupied Palestinian territories".

"We will continue armed resistance until the liberation of all the occupied territories," he said.


401 posted on 08/14/2005 10:42:07 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Polybius
Another Tom Clancy wanna-be, eh?

Your military analysis is insipid; your historical overview shallow; and the overall tone of your remarks juvenile, in a strutting freshman history major at a second rate junior college sort of way.

Pardon me if I *snicker* at such a flaccid intellectual demonstration of mental prowess...

402 posted on 08/14/2005 10:42:31 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." - Heraclitus)
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To: adam_az

I feel a deep sense of sadness, even unto tears, for the people of Israel tonight.


403 posted on 08/14/2005 10:44:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Lemmings: The Ultimate Team Players!)
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To: TAquinas

The settlers, actually resettlers, should salt the earth and ship any livestock out of Gaza. After this shameful evacuation, any viokence across the border with Gaza from the palesites should be met by "a rain of ruin". the anniversary of 9/11 is coming up and I still remember the palesites and other jihadist scum dancing in the Arab gutter. Doom be upon them!


404 posted on 08/14/2005 10:48:54 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Listen to the Wailing Wall cameras...and every now and then you hear a child yell out for his or her father or grandfather. This child's future is the one being chrushed today, and by faith alone will they be saved.

http://english.thekotel.org/cameras.asp

register, it's free and what you get is amazing. streaming video and sound from the Wailing Wall.

Next, click on "Prayer Plaza." Look and listen for a bit. Leave it up in the background until the singing starts every now and then. Very moving. . .


405 posted on 08/14/2005 10:49:55 PM PDT by edmond246 (God Bless America)
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To: TAquinas

"I do believe you've met the reefer man.."


406 posted on 08/14/2005 10:51:57 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: edmond246

I very much appreciate that wonderful link.

Unfortunately, I am stuck with a slow connection for the next couple of days. But, I will bookmark it, so I can use it later in the week when my highspeed connection is hooked up.

Again, thank you.


407 posted on 08/14/2005 10:52:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Lemmings: The Ultimate Team Players!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

He's been banned....


408 posted on 08/14/2005 10:52:56 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: E Rocc

As long as Gaza residents are being forced to leave, why not push the Dome of the Crock off the Haram al Sharmuta?


409 posted on 08/14/2005 10:56:36 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
As long as Gaza residents are being forced to leave, why not push the Dome of the Crock off the Haram al Sharmuta?

Works for me.

Then apply tons of disinfectant...

410 posted on 08/14/2005 10:58:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Lemmings: The Ultimate Team Players!)
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To: adam_az

An excellent answer!


411 posted on 08/14/2005 11:01:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: edmond246

as all this is going down, Al-Jazeera is showing footage of the pullout, juxtaposed with the "martyrs" who made this "blessed day" possible.

They have the little muslim kids dressed like suicide bombers shouting "Today Gaza, Tomorrow Jerusalem".
It's a vctory lap for Hamas...

yep, that'll teach em.

The english website has a very sanitised, America friendly but still semi-accurate version of this..

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2D6414A2-8068-4045-BF6B-8D6303C79E09.htm


412 posted on 08/14/2005 11:02:07 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Many people forget that the palis deny the very existance of the State of Israel.

I know....I've not forgotten.

413 posted on 08/14/2005 11:02:07 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Destroy the palesite infestation. To use Nasser's expression "Push them into the sea!"


414 posted on 08/14/2005 11:03:34 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Oh, BTW, you never answered my question from earlier...

Sorry, I missed the post in my In-Box clutter.

The question was:

So. Israel gave up land. And the bombings have already begun, in spite of what we were "promised". What is the next step that she (Israel) should take to protect herself?

First of all, you have to admit two things:

1. The Palestinians will always hate Israel.

2. The Palestinians will always try to attack Israel.

That is a given.

No matter how much Israel kisses Palestinian butt, that will be so.

Now, on to the next question.

Why should Israel "give up" land.

Well, what land are we taking about?

If Israel were offered one million square miles of land populated with 50 million Islamic fanatics who wanted to kill Israelis, would Israel exclaim, "Wow!What a great deal!" ?

Of course not.

So, why would Israel want to hang on to land or live on land overwhelmingly populated by fanatics who want to kill Israelis?

That's just begging for a Darwin Award.

When there is a dangerous animal around your neighborhood, you must either kill it or lock it up.

You can't allow it to live with you.

In this day and age, killing the Palestinian animal is not really feasible. Let's face it, the World is not going to tolerate a "Final Solution" to the Palestinian problem.

That leaves option Number Two.

Lock the animal up.

When you lock the animal up, you don't live in its cage. You might live right next to its cage but certainly not "in" the cage.

The Israeli Wall will be the Palestrina's cage in Gaza.

To the West, the Palestinians will be caged in by the Israeli Navy. To the North and East, they will be caged by the Israeli Wall.

The only door to the cage will be the southern border with Egypt that Israel can slam shut at any time with an armored thrust.

The Palestinian animal will be caged and 90% surrounded by the Israeli Army and Navy and, overhead, the skies will be the prowling ground of the Israeli Air Force.

With the Israeli Wall, overland attacks from Gaza will be physically impossible.

Without the safety of Jewish settlers to worry about, any rocket attack from Gaza can be retaliated against with overwhelming air strikes by the Israeli Air Force.

The Palestinian Authority will have to choose between battling Hammas or seeing Gaza reduced to a pile of rubble by the Israeli Air Force.

See my Post 387 to Alouette in regards to Napoleon's obsession about keeping captured Russian land.

In the end, by ignoring military common sense, Napoleon defeated himself.

415 posted on 08/14/2005 11:06:07 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Brad's Gramma

this is absolutely disgusting, the Arab media are running this as a full victory for the "martyrs", suicide bombers, etc....

The way they have the kids marching with glee in bomber vests is probably the most disgusting ... and yes, they have posters of the "martyrs" and pre-printed shirts and posters saying , "Today Gaza! Tomorrow Jerusalem!"

It's like they won the super bowl


416 posted on 08/14/2005 11:07:18 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Lijahsbubbe

The UN? FM!


417 posted on 08/14/2005 11:07:33 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

"I'm here...praying."

Me too, Brad's Gramma!


418 posted on 08/14/2005 11:10:05 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Good! He can join CJ and the other jihad apoloigists!


419 posted on 08/14/2005 11:14:20 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Polybius
The Palestinian animal will be caged and 90% surrounded by the Israeli Army and Navy and, overhead, the skies will be the prowling ground of the Israeli Air Force.

Neither will the world tolerate this.

I'm logging off for the night...I know I keep saying that, but (ha!) this time I mean it.

I leave my beloved Jewish friends with all the prayers I can muster up...G-d IS stronger than these animals. As dark as it looks now...He IS in control.

420 posted on 08/14/2005 11:14:39 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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