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Gaza Disengagement/Expulsion Live Thread
FR live thread | 7/14/2005 | none

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PDT by adam_az

Edited on 08/14/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Live thread for posting breaking news about the Gaza Explulsion which is set to begin within the hour...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: appeasement; arabs; deportation; disengagement; gaza; gushkatif; israel; judenrein; pullout; retreat; squatterremoval; suicide; terrorismpays
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To: Hischild

Tisha B'Av began last night as Sabbath ended.


41 posted on 08/14/2005 2:07:19 PM PDT by Alouette (My son joined the IDF to protect Jews, not Ariel Sharon.)
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To: adam_az
Arutz Sheva news ticker
23:54 Aug-14-05
Kfar Darom Residents Hang Signs on Doors: "We Will Never Move From Here!"
22:37 Aug-14-05
Northern Samaria to be Blockaded and Sealed Midnight Sunday
22:11 Aug-14-05
Two Firebombs Hurled at Israeli Vehicle in Gush Etzion, No Injuries
21:57 Aug-14-05
Phony Bomb With Anti-Expulsion Notes Found in Jerusalem
21:40 Aug-14-05
Supreme Court Rejects Residents' Petition Against Use of Cages in Expulsion
21:29 Aug-14-05
More Elite IDF Combat Soldiers Refuse Expulsion Orders
21:01 Aug-14-05
Police Refuse to Authorize Protest Outside PM's Office, But Will Not Act to Prevent It
20:49 Aug-14-05
IDF Chief of Staff: At Least 5,000 Activists Have Made it Into Gush Katif

42 posted on 08/14/2005 2:07:19 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: hershey

Hopefully.


43 posted on 08/14/2005 2:08:20 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Hischild

This is so pathetic......Arabs live in Israel and don't have to leave(or get blown up by bombers)...


44 posted on 08/14/2005 2:08:37 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Hischild

Tisha B'Av began on Saturday night. The expulsion is starting at midnight in Israel on the day after the 9th of the month of Av.


45 posted on 08/14/2005 2:09:18 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Prime Choice

"Those who give up land for peace shall have neither"

IMHO, the pullout from Gaza has given terrorists around the world the increased motivation that has resulted in the increase in the number and frequency of homicide attacks in recent weeks, in both Europe and Asia.

Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem, next week New York.

I just do NOT get it.


46 posted on 08/14/2005 2:09:47 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Alouette

So technically they launched this the day after Tisha B'Av, is that right? (Not that it makes it any better - just trying to nail down the timing. I consider these things very significant.) Thanks for your patience with my ignorance!


47 posted on 08/14/2005 2:09:53 PM PDT by Hischild
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To: adam_az
Anyone good with maps please post 'em! :-)

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Northern Samaria to be Blockaded and Sealed Midnight Sunday
22:37 Aug 14, '05 / 9 Av 5765

(IsraelNN.com) IDF Central Commander Yair Naveh instructed the IDF to forbid the entrance of Israeli non-residents to northern Samaria starting Monday.

Beginning at 12:01 AM, northern Samaria will be hermetically sealed and only exit from the region will be allowed.

Residents are calling upon activists to make their way toward the communities of Homesh and Sa-Nur before the blockade is placed, although a previous IDF attempt to set up a checkpoint in the region was thwarted by determined residents.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=87715

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Kfar Darom Residents Hang Signs on Doors: "We Will Never Move From Here!"
23:54 Aug 14, '05 / 9 Av 5765

(IsraelNN.com) Residents of the Gaza community of Kfar Darom, first settled 60 years ago, hanged signs on their doors Sunday declaring their determination to stay where they are.

"Soldier/Officer, stop," the signs read. "The moment you knock on this door you will become a direct part of the most dreadful crime in the generations of the nation of Israel. We will not be expelled from our homes. We Will Never Move From Here!"

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=87716

48 posted on 08/14/2005 2:10:02 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: agrace

En masse?

All I see in that picture is a few hundred people at best.


49 posted on 08/14/2005 2:10:07 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: adam_az
within the hour?

CNN says forced withdrawal begins on Wednesday. FOX reporter says one Israli has already torched his house and there are fears that many will commit suicide.

50 posted on 08/14/2005 2:10:53 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Reborn

I'm calling it a "frontier rectification plan."


51 posted on 08/14/2005 2:10:56 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: adam_az

Debka reports:

http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=542

Kissufim roadblock entry to Gaza’s Gush Katif slams shut for the last time Sunday night, opening only for exits. Only 33% of families have left.

August 14, 2005, 7:54 PM (GMT+02:00)

A rise in the Palestinian terror level could slow down evacuations, said Israeli chief of staff Dan Halutz in his final Sunday briefing to chiefs of the evacuation units hours before delivery of the individual eviction orders began midnight. The deployment has begun of the four-brigade IDF ring shielding the evacuation zones. A Palestinian force is due to take up position 200-300 yards away by Wednesday.

The 48-hour eviction orders are intended to speed up voluntary departures. By Sunday, no more than one-third of Gaza Strip families was estimated to have left or applied for state assistance. The communities making a stand against evacuations are Kfar Darom, Shirat Hayam, Netzarim, Katif and part of Neve Dekalim.

Monday and Tuesday, the troops will give holdouts brotherly advice to leave their homes voluntarily although reasonable requests will be heeded. But Wednesday, Aug. 17, the general insisted “sensitivity will make way for determination.” The mission will be accomplished on time.

Halutz estimated that some 5000 non-residents managed to slip into Gush Katif to help resist the pull-out. Thousands of troops and police are manning roadblocks on southern Israeli roads leading to Gaza to hold back supporters from reaching Gush Katif.

The Israeli government is due Monday, Aug 15, to approve the second batch of locations for removal, including the four in the northern West Bank. There, some 65% of the families marked for evacuation have left, leaving hold-outs in Sanur and Homesh.


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http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=535

Israeli officer, 4 soldiers, hurt in friendly fire following first pullout incident

August 14, 2005, 12:04 PM (GMT+02:00)

Regardless of the Palestinian pledge to hold their fire during the pullout, a sniper began shooting at Kfar Darom before dawn Sunday, Aug 14 from a nearby rooftop used regularly as a Palestinian terrorist lookout and firing position. An IDF tank and armored carrier were sent to silence the shooting. The tank fired two shells at the house, one of which exploded near the armored carrier, injuring an officer and 4 soldiers.

DEBKAfile reports: The Israeli high command took the Palestinian pledge seriously, setting up joint operations rooms, trading documents and maps and allowing armed Palestinian strength to deploy around the fences of the locations due for evacuation. Israeli commanders were briefed to expect a Palestinian attack only after the removal of civilians. That pledge was violated by one sniper early Sunday and, although the powers-that-be will try hard to treat this as an isolated incident, he is unlikely to be the last one.

Israeli security forces are therefore confronted this week with two almost insuperable tasks:

1. To protect some 30,000 troops police and evacuees packed tightly within the narrow limits of Gush Katif and the Kissufim road against Palestinian attack. A single mortar shell would inflict a massacre.

In the third week of July, IDF commanders pressed for a temporary takeover of Palestinian vantage points overlooking the evacuation sectors as a protective measure. Defense minister Shaul Mofaz refused.

2. To keep the line of 7,500 Palestinian security officers from too closely encircling the evacuations. This line is too flimsy and untrustworthy to hold off a determined rush by armed Palestinian terrorists; some of the officers may slip them Israel’s plans of operation or even point out the best firing positions for attack. All the same, the IDF command has little hope of gaining Israeli government permission for this task - even if the coordination accords signed with the Palestinian Authority and endorsed by international coordinators fail to hold water.

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http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=534

Abu Mazen’s emissary: Palestinians “right of return” from Lebanon starts in Gaza

August 13, 2005, 11:12 PM (GMT+02:00)

Senior member of the Fatah central committee, Abu Zaki, told a news conference in Beirut Saturday, August 13: Palestinian refugees living in Lebanon have priority over other Palestinians to return to Gaza after Israel’s pullout.

On a mission to Lebanon on behalf of the Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas, Zaki made three more points:

1. Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza without stipulating the right to oversee incoming and exiting traffic opens the way for Palestinians to realize their “right of return.”

2. It is out of the question for the Palestinians of the Ein Hilwa and Mia Mia camps near Sidon and Rashidiya near Tyre to give up their arms in keeping with demands from the Bush administration.

3. The Palestinian militias in Lebanon will be shipped by sea to the Gaza Strip. DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Zaki was referring to a 3,000-strong Palestinian militia among which Hizballah and al Qaeda elements are embedded with their commander, Col. Mounir Maqdah.

In the name of Abu Mazen, Zaki promoted Brig. Sultan Abu al-Aynayan, from head of Palestinian forces in Ein Hilwa to supreme Palestinian commander in Lebanon.

Zaki is in Lebanon to execute the understandings Abu Mazen reached with Lebanese prime minister Dr. Fouad Siniora in Beirut on July 27.


52 posted on 08/14/2005 2:11:53 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: agrace

I would say to get together " in mass" and cry out to God is a good thing!!!Crying out here too.......


53 posted on 08/14/2005 2:11:59 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Carolinamom

"within the hour?"

Yes, the IDF delivers walking papers to the residents tonight.


54 posted on 08/14/2005 2:12:35 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

Destroy all items, give the Palestinians the land, let millions move in and then after the first terrorist from Gaza kills an Israeli Jew, drop the big one on them.


55 posted on 08/14/2005 2:12:42 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Marguerite

Have you ever been to Gush Katif? There are some beautiful pics available to look at. All the areas I've seen are beautiful. If that is a "garbage dump", then diamonds don't sparkle and shine in the daylight. ;-)


56 posted on 08/14/2005 2:12:45 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: TAquinas
Their stay on Gaza and the West Bank was a temporary stay since it never was their lands.

How so?

57 posted on 08/14/2005 2:13:22 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: Carolinamom

"FOX reporter says one Israli has already torched his house and there are fears that many will commit suicide."

Oh pleeease! Nothing so difensible as to commit suicide.


58 posted on 08/14/2005 2:13:53 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: adam_az

A win, win situation for Palestinians. If there's violence, it proves Jews are bad. Hamas has already said once they regain control of Gaza, there'll be 'the odd' rocket here and there and Jews will die...so what. To the Palestinian mind nothing succeeds like success. Intafada, mayhem and murder, suicide bombs have yielded the Gaza Strip. Psychology 101, positive reinforcement will produce more of the same behavior. What reason in the world would they have to change their behavior, their goals? So predictable and tragic.


59 posted on 08/14/2005 2:14:07 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TAquinas

"I'm calling it a "frontier rectification plan.""

Thats not what the palestinians are calling it. Unless you think that our own open borders are the same thing?

Senior member of the Fatah central committee, Abu Zaki, told a news conference in Beirut Saturday, August 13: Palestinian refugees living in Lebanon have priority over other Palestinians to return to Gaza after Israel’s pullout.

On a mission to Lebanon on behalf of the Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas, Zaki made three more points:

1. Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza without stipulating the right to oversee incoming and exiting traffic opens the way for Palestinians to realize their “right of return.”

2. It is out of the question for the Palestinians of the Ein Hilwa and Mia Mia camps near Sidon and Rashidiya near Tyre to give up their arms in keeping with demands from the Bush administration.

3. The Palestinian militias in Lebanon will be shipped by sea to the Gaza Strip. DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Zaki was referring to a 3,000-strong Palestinian militia among which Hizballah and al Qaeda elements are embedded with their commander, Col. Mounir Maqdah.

In the name of Abu Mazen, Zaki promoted Brig. Sultan Abu al-Aynayan, from head of Palestinian forces in Ein Hilwa to supreme Palestinian commander in Lebanon.

Zaki is in Lebanon to execute the understandings Abu Mazen reached with Lebanese prime minister Dr. Fouad Siniora in Beirut on July 27.



60 posted on 08/14/2005 2:14:16 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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