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Army rations rehydrated by urine
newscientist.com ^ | July 2004 | Duncan Graham-Rowe

Posted on 08/15/2005 2:05:08 PM PDT by steel_resolve

Would you eat food cooked in your own urine? Food scientists working for the US military have developed a dried food ration that troops can hydrate by adding the filthiest of muddy swamp water or even peeing on it.

The ration comes in a pouch containing a filter that removes 99.9 per cent of bacteria and most toxic chemicals from the water used to rehydrate it, according to the Combat Feeding Directorate, part of the US Army Soldier Systems Center in Natick, Massachusetts. This is the same organisation that created the "indestructible sandwich" that will stay fresh for three years (New Scientist print edition, 10 April 2002).

The aim is to reduce the amount of water soldiers need to carry. One day's food supply of three meals, weighs 3.5 kilograms but that can be reduced to about 0.4 kilograms with the dehydrated pouches, says spokeswoman Diane Wood.

The pouch - containing chicken and rice initially - relies on osmosis to filter the water or urine. When two solutions of different concentrations are separated by a semipermeable membrane, with gaps that allow only water molecules to pass through, the water is drawn to the more concentrated side.

Hungry soldier

The membranes are made of thin sheets of a cellulose-based plastic, with gaps between the fibres that are just 0.5 nanometres across, too small for bacteria to pass through.

A hungry soldier pours dirty water into one end of a foil sachet containing two inner pouches separated by the membrane. The water seeps through the membrane into the dehydrated food on the other side. As it dissolves large molecules in the food, it creates a very high concentration solution. The osmotic pressure created then draws more water through the membrane.

Hydration Technology of Albany, Oregon, which makes the membrane, says soldiers should only use urine in an absolute emergency because the membrane is too coarse to filter out urea.

The body will not find this toxic over the short term, says Ed Beaudry, an engineer with HTI, but rehydrating food this way in the long term would cause kidney damage.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; barf; cary; ewww; pee; rations
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To: steel_resolve

Man, give the the old C rations any day of the week!!!!


41 posted on 08/15/2005 2:22:59 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The government and courts are stealing your freedom & liberty!)
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To: eastsider

Confucius say: `he who cook carrots and peas in pot, very unsanitary!'

For real, our survival medicine course in Vietnam said you can cleanse an open wound with (your own) urine.

Yet another reason to `piss cold' when your unit is hit with an unannounced urinalysis.

But I agree, I'd rather eat the new ration dry crunchy.


42 posted on 08/15/2005 2:23:42 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: dirtboy
You can always drink Coors Lite as a transitional step.

I think that's why they call Coors Light "canoe-sex beer" because it's "f'n close to water".

43 posted on 08/15/2005 2:24:54 PM PDT by Bob
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To: steel_resolve

European?


44 posted on 08/15/2005 2:25:30 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: steel_resolve
I'm eating here!! Should've had Barf Alert before the headline
45 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:13 PM PDT by BallyBill (Laughing at Liberals, it's not just for breakfast anymore!!)
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To: steel_resolve
Pissah!

Would Pabst be just as good?

46 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:19 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: steel_resolve

BLEAH!




47 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:21 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: steel_resolve

And to think you had to pay to get this service in San Francisco...


48 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:27 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: steel_resolve

Will wonders never cease....


49 posted on 08/15/2005 2:27:29 PM PDT by NTW64
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To: steel_resolve
Urine luck with Golden Showers Brand mre's. Just go, and you're ready eat.

"Mmmm, just mom used to make."

That's right billy, , now, don't forget to eat that brownie!

50 posted on 08/15/2005 2:28:01 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1500 replies and not a single post!)
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To: Peter vE
>> Not only does the MRE taste like s##t, now this! ROTFLOL!! Thanks a lot, now my wife knows I'm surfing FR
51 posted on 08/15/2005 2:29:44 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: elcid1970

Original recipe all the way!


52 posted on 08/15/2005 2:30:45 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: mmercier
I've never been in the military but I've had a few MRE's and they're pretty good. I've heard they lead to a 'ahem, blockage' problem after while. Much better than the c-rats my dad brought back form WWII and Korea. I took them camping in 1979 and they were truly disgusting. I'm sure the age had something to do with it but we called one container, beef with worms,mmmmmmm.
53 posted on 08/15/2005 2:31:37 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: steel_resolve

This just goes to show that Frank Herbert was a genius.


54 posted on 08/15/2005 2:34:50 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: steel_resolve
This article must be old. I haven't seen freeze-dried rations since the early 80's when we had to suffer with potato patties, beef patties, pork patties, etc. Yeah, they all tasted like S#*t, but you'd never be able to tell what you were eating while sitting in that cold foxhole in the middle of the night.

Trying to find a way to lessen the water load of a soldier is a big mistake. The body requires a certain amount of water per day to maintain homeostasis, and lessening that amount will result in dehydration. Perhaps in a survival situation, this technique is viable, but not for everyday use. I think a distillation process would be better than a passive reverse osmosis process.

55 posted on 08/15/2005 2:35:09 PM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: steel_resolve

Eleonor Clift would love this if she could get Bill Clinton to send her a gallon of urine.


56 posted on 08/15/2005 2:35:41 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: steel_resolve

Gives a whole new meaning of "pot to piss in"


57 posted on 08/15/2005 2:41:28 PM PDT by radar101
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To: steel_resolve
What is our country coming to when our nations finest have to cook their meals with pee?

Better that than the swamp water. Urine is pretty sterile, swamp water has enough "bugs" in it to give a whole division the Turkey Trots.

58 posted on 08/15/2005 2:43:54 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Sax
Ok, what kind of emergency would require pi$$ing on it, rather than eating it dry & crunchy?

Water shortage. Since the urine is filtered, the process effectively recycles the water content of the urine. It would help to prevent dehydration.

59 posted on 08/15/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Billthedrill
All I am saying, is "give pees a chance."

ROTFLMAOAPMP (but not 'recycling'. :) )

60 posted on 08/15/2005 2:48:40 PM PDT by El Gato
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