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Muslims unite! A new Reformation will bring your faith into the modern era
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| 8/11/2005
| Salmon Rushdie
Posted on 08/17/2005 4:32:08 PM PDT by abu afak
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:32:08 PM PDT
by
abu afak
To: abu afak
He said as recently as January 13: There is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist. This is deeply offensive. Saying Muslims are terrorists would be covered [ie, banned] by this provision.
Wanna Bet on this Igbal?
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:35:06 PM PDT
by
rocksblues
(I support the war on terror)
To: abu afak
Muslims Unite
No thanks. That causes problems.
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:39:35 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: abu afak
Gotta admire the guy's chutzpah.
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:42:49 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Officially around the bend, at least for now.)
To: abu afak
Oy, reformation, schmeforation. Why don't they just convert to Christianity, its more advanced than moon-boy.
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:46:00 PM PDT
by
evolved_rage
(I've done it now.......)
To: abu afak
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:47:15 PM PDT
by
Michael Goldsberry
(an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
To: abu afak
After reading the Quran it is painfully obvious that it is not the literal "word of god"
but the rantings of a seventh century merchant who was diluded into believing he was a prophet.
He may have been schizophrenic.
As Mr. Rushdie so eloquently asks in the article;
Why would God be influenced by the socioeconomics of 7th-century Arabia, after all? Why would the Messengers personal circumstances have anything to do with the Message?
To: abu afak
The main problem with Muslim reformers is that they typically wind up with their heads separated from their bodies by their fellow jihadists.
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:51:08 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: homewithkids
As Mr. Rushdie so eloquently asks in the article; Why would God be influenced by the socioeconomics of 7th-century Arabia, after all? Why would the Messengers personal circumstances have anything to do with the Message? And isn't it interesting how the "peaceful, tolerant Muslims" won't lift a finger to have the bounty on Rushie's head removed?
I am always leery of any group that goes nonlinear when faced with constructive criticism.
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posted on
08/17/2005 4:53:08 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: Prime Choice; SJackson; Alouette
"""As Mr. Rushdie so eloquently asks in the article; Why would God be influenced by the socioeconomics of 7th-century Arabia, after all? Why would the Messengers personal circumstances have anything to do with the Message?""" The Koran Reads like a War Manual in Parts and clearly we are looking at Mohammed's experience and not Divine revelation. In fact, The Koran changes with Mohammed's mood on many things like Jews and others as the conquest proceeds.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:01:39 PM PDT
by
abu afak
(abuafak@yahoo.ie)
To: abu afak
Mohammed was "the last prophet". There can be no reformation of Islam.
Those who seek reformation should scrap their faith in the bloodcult and return to the original Biblical texts or the New and/or Old Testaments as Christians or Jews.
Mohammed's religion is a religion of AN antiChrist as it is the only religion to recognize the existance of Jesus yet denies His divinity, His crucifixtion, and His resurrection. Mohammed has led the flock astray.
If they accept Christ, they should convert to Christianity, if they still reject Him, they should convert to Judaism.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:01:59 PM PDT
by
weegee
(The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
To: Prime Choice
As I understand it, the original bounty/fatwa on his head has been lifted. However there are some who have refused to accept that, so his life is still threatened.
12
posted on
08/17/2005 5:03:45 PM PDT
by
weegee
(The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
To: weegee
As I understand it, the original bounty/fatwa on his head has been lifted. However there are some who have refused to accept that, so his life is still threatened. The fatwa was decreed by the Ayatollah Khomeini. Only his spiritual successor can lift it. None have.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:05:17 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: evolved_rage
My thoughts exactly. Could even see room for them to convert to Judaism (although they would still deny Christ).
Doubt that there are many muslims in the Middle East who survive converting from Islam to any other faith let alone many muslims who convert from Isalm to Judaism.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:06:19 PM PDT
by
weegee
(The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
To: weegee
Re: #11
LOL! Okay, okay... even though we're both on the same side with this issue, that was rife with inaccuracies.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:09:56 PM PDT
by
Michael Goldsberry
(an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
To: homewithkids
After reading the Quran it is painfully obvious that it is not the literal "word of god" but the rantings of a seventh century merchant who was diluded into believing he was a prophet. He may have been schizophrenic.
True. But in all honesty, reading the writings of the Apostle Paul can give the neutral observer the exact same impression.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:12:26 PM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
To: Prime Choice
I agree and if you've read the Satanic Verses you would see that it is really for nothing.
The book is mediocre at best and never actually refers directly to mohammed but uses pseudonyms instead.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:15:32 PM PDT
by
homewithkids
(no tags; just me)
To: weegee
Mohammed's religion is a religion of AN antiChrist as it is the only religion to recognize the existance of Jesus yet denies His divinity, His crucifixtion, and His resurrection. Mohammed has led the flock astray. Who is the one being that would want Jesus rejected by people and permanently separated from God?
Allah = Satan
To: ThomasNast
True but I don't know if Mohammed is THE AntiChrist or just AN antiChrist.
Depends on how far his followers take this, I guess.
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:22:26 PM PDT
by
weegee
(The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
To: abu afak
Islam and the 'modern era' are, no pun intended, fundamentally incompatible!
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posted on
08/17/2005 5:37:12 PM PDT
by
Rummyfan
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