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China-Russia exercises send a message to U.S.
The Seattle Times ^ | August 18, 2005 | NA

Posted on 08/18/2005 8:51:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 08/19/2005 6:16:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Thank you again for pinging me.

Is it not interesting that this major development in Geo-politics is not as important to the MSM as are the unwashed bitter hippies enjoying a ditch in Crawford?
22 posted on 08/19/2005 9:46:10 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Bernard Marx; Tailgunner Joe

Russia and China are more likely to be enemies than allies. China covets what it considers ancestral territories in Russia's southeast. Russia lacks the military manpower to guard its territory. Putin could be showing China his long-range technological muscle.==

It is intellegent assessment. I agree with you. Cheers:)..


23 posted on 08/20/2005 6:09:31 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
Thanks for your comment. I was speaking in the long term; short-term alliances can be formed for immediate goals, as we saw with the Hitler-Stalin pact. Do you have any insights into Putin and his policies? Is he slyly trying to re-Communize or at least centralize his own dictatorial power? His KGB background concerns me.

I want to thank you for the information on your home page. It puts a different face on the usual version of Russian history accepted in the West and is very interesting and thought-provoking. I think every Freeper could benefit from reading it. Cheers back :o)

24 posted on 08/20/2005 8:44:09 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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Do you have any insights into Putin and his policies? Is he slyly trying to re-Communize or at least centralize his own dictatorial power? His KGB background concerns me. ==

Putin is former intellegence officer. KGB was a bunch of organizations. Many things in one package. Political police was 5th Directorate. Putin served in 1st (the intellegence).

You may deem him as military man came to power. And in same time he is graduated lawyer.

SO what power he build now is just something in between of judicial beuraucracy ruling and military ruling.
SO if I'm correct Putin maybe somewhat as french general DeGalle. But he is much younger about 50 now.

I don't know will it be good for Russia in future this type of beuraucracy - military rulling but now comparing with Eltsin times it is better.

Personal freedoms are somewhat restricted but in same time there are much more stability now than then.

Anyway I don't see now the person better then Putin for president. All his opponents are open crooks. If I choose between Putin and Kasparov or Khodorkovskii or Kasyanov, I choose Putin.

I don't agree with his huggings with chinese but I don't know maybe he has to. China is neibor and Putin has to make peace with them.

I agree with his hugging with germans and italians. They are most trading partners and simply they just centuries partners of Russia.
Russia and them connected by thousands of threads.
During all history they make lot of fine things in Russia.

If you don't know that I tell that more then half of Kremlin buildings was built by italien architectures. Whole center of Peterburg and famous Winter Palace was built by italien too.
Germans did Russia thier emperatresses and many much of finest engineers. It was custom that each russian czar married one of german princess.

If we go even further then I may recall that ancient Rus the predessecor of Russia was created by vikings more then 1000 years ago. The word "Rus" was viking word.
SO russians has blood relations with all northern europian nations the decendants of vikings.

Now you may understand why Russia is so fightious:)). Even more later mongol invasions overcame Russia and Russia adopted much of their fightiousness too:).

One have to consider all these if one want to understand what Russia is doing now.


25 posted on 08/20/2005 9:12:18 AM PDT by RusIvan
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