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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
NHC-NOAA ^ | 27 August 2005 | NHC-NOAA

Posted on 08/26/2005 10:25:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: nwctwx

I keep thinking Drudge will put up some big headline on his site as it seems most of America has no idea yet of how potential this threat is. He seems to be asleep on this one.

I have an empty 5 gallon gas can that I should get filled tommorow. As for NO.... It sounds like they need a lot of prayers.


81 posted on 08/26/2005 11:35:14 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

drudge is too busy finding pop-up sponsors.


82 posted on 08/26/2005 11:36:37 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: dennis1x

GOES 12 is back up now. The newest image shows a fairly well defined (not super warm) eye... it's also embedded in the central dense overcast better than earlier. Should be some nice visible shots to wake up to.


83 posted on 08/26/2005 11:37:04 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: dennis1x

"drudge is too busy finding pop-up sponsors."

LOL

I know exactly what you mean there. Of course he is pretty good at pop Unders too. And that dang Java script that reloads the page in the middle of reading something. Nasty stuff. I still think a lot of people get breaking news there first as far as the internet goes. Thanks To FR I get it before they do.


84 posted on 08/26/2005 11:42:12 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Strategerist

Actually not. For my purposes -- trading -- the important part isn't the time span, the ''when'', it's the ''where''. Katrina is evidently now likely to hit X number of GOM rigs, and that will skew prices hugely for a couple of days, and longer term will contribute to the spec fever which has been infecting energy prices for half a year or so.


85 posted on 08/26/2005 11:42:25 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: NautiNurse

We got caught in Emily that came ashore over Cancun in July.

That storm was a 4 almost a 5. What a nightmare.

Prayers for everyone.


86 posted on 08/26/2005 11:42:26 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: nwctwx

wow....looks good.....extremely cold cloudtops exploding in the ne quadrant....which has been weaker (nw weakest)....cat 4 by 11am advisory.


87 posted on 08/26/2005 11:43:17 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: NautiNurse

Katrina Threatens Fla. With Encore Visit

By JOHN PAIN, Associated Press Writer

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050827/ap_on_re_us/tropical_weather


MIAMI, Fla. - Utility crews scrambled to restore power to more than 1 million customers Friday as Hurricane Katrina, blamed for seven deaths and miles of flooded streets in South Florida, threatened the state with an encore visit.

Katrina was churning in the Gulf of Mexico and on a path to make landfall anywhere from the Florida Panhandle to Louisiana as early as Monday, possibly as a Category 4 storm.

"I'm so sick of this," said Pat Jackson, an interior decorator in Homestead. Her apartment building was flooded with several inches of water during Katrina's first pass across the state.

"It seems like every other week or month another one comes," she said.

Scenes of Katrina's impact were everywhere Friday — work crews sawing trees crippled by the winds; people canoeing through inundated streets; a 727 cargo plane pushed along a runway fence; sailboats resting askew on a sandy shore.

Florida has been hit by six hurricanes since last August, and the Panhandle was slammed by Hurricane Ivan last year, and then again by Hurricane Dennis this year, both Category 3 storms. Katrina was a Category 1 with 80 mph winds when it hit Florida on Thursday.

On Friday, Gov. Jeb Bush urged residents in many of the same Panhandle areas to monitor the storm and make necessary preparations. If Katrina hit at Category 4 strength, as forecasters say it could, it would mean sustained winds topping 130 mph.

Bush said he had asked for federal disaster assistance for Miami-Dade and Broward counties, where some residents said they were caught off guard by the gathering storm.

"Maybe we can get rid of the phrase minimal hurricane," state meteorologist Ben Nelson said Friday. "There is no such thing as a minimal hurricane."

The death toll grew to seven, including four people killed by falling trees and two boaters who tried to ride out the storm in their crafts.

Risk modeling company AIR Worldwide estimated insured losses from Katrina's first landfall could approach $600 million.

Katrina, the second hurricane to hit Florida this year, grew from a disorganized 50-mph tropical storm to one with 92-mph wind gusts in a few hours Thursday.

It pummeled South Florida with blankets of rain and howling winds. Darkened skies lit up with popping power transformers, trees flew across streets and rain swamped some neighborhoods with water up to waist high.

"We had wind coming from two directions. It sounded like a super wind tunnel," said Scott Resnick, who rode out the storm in Hallandale Beach.

As it moved out into the Gulf on Friday, Katrina became a Category 2 hurricane and lashed the Florida Keys with strong outer bands that could dump up from 15 to 20 inches over the island chain.

At 2 a.m. EDT, the eye of the hurricane was located about 135 miles west of Key West. It was moving toward the west-southwest near 8 mph.

The National Hurricane Center said Katrina was expected to strengthen significantly over warm Gulf waters and warned residents from Florida to southeast Louisiana to be ready.

Hardware stores in the Panhandle reported increased sales of gasoline containers, lanterns, batteries and tarps. Joe Crews at Meredith and Sons Lumber in Gulf Breeze said a steady stream of people came in to buy plywood Thursday.

"They're not anxious, but they are cautious," he said. "A lot of them haven't gotten repaired since the last storms, and they want to try to take the steps to save what they've got left."

Katrina's first swipe across Florida left about 50 homes flooded in Homestead and 40 mobile homes damaged in Broward County.

At a 12-unit apartment complex in Davie, Beverly Johnson, 41, and her 7-year-old son used pots to hold all the dripping water after their roof caved in during the storm.

"Water came in and then the ceiling collapsed," she said. "We were really shaken up last night."

Street flooding and debris strewn on the roads made many streets impassable, a situation made worse by power outages that affected street lights.

An overpass under construction in Miami-Dade County collapsed onto a highway. No injuries were reported, but the freeway — a main east-west thoroughfare — was closed for 20 blocks.

David Carter rode out the storm in his Coconut Grove home, listening as avocados were torn off branches and hitting the structure.

"It sounded like tiny bowling balls hitting the top of the roof and rolling down," he said. "You just heard the big thud."

The hurricane hindered the Coast Guard's search early Friday for a family of five who went out on their 24-foot pleasure boat. A Coast Guard helicopter finally found Edward and Tina Larsen and their three children. Their conditions were not immediately known.

The hurricane emptied the usually bustling streets of Miami Beach. The city is hosting celebrities and partygoers in town for Sunday's MTV Video Music Awards. MTV called off its pre-awards festivities Thursday and Friday.

And in the face of all the damage, some people took advantage of the wild weather to have fun. Surfers hit South Florida beaches Thursday ahead of the storm, and after it passed Friday.

"It's like a one-day vacation," said 17-year-old surfer Chris Dobson in Deerfield Beach. "We're just hoping to catch a few good waves, and have some fun out here while we can."

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On the Net:

National Hurricane Center: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov


88 posted on 08/26/2005 11:46:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Reading that article--I coudn't help recalling last year when thousands of false claims were filed with FEMA in Miami-Dade County after the storms. Miami-Dade was not touched by any of last year's storms.


89 posted on 08/26/2005 11:52:39 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse; nwctwx; dennis1x

Did I see 950 MB just on this thread?

Good Lord...

this thing still has at least 48 hours over super hot water too....


90 posted on 08/26/2005 11:54:30 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: nwctwx

Please tell me exactly what all the number at the beginning of this thread title mean and Does this sound viable?

http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?s=e74eb196012076dda4ab3c9ae24a6583&showtopic=47298


91 posted on 08/26/2005 11:55:32 PM PDT by Revel
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To: nwctwx

I guess I should specify the "00z GFDL" Part.


Thank you.


92 posted on 08/26/2005 11:57:02 PM PDT by Revel
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To: MikeinIraq
Did I see 950 MB just on this thread?

Yep--recon

93 posted on 08/26/2005 11:57:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Revel

> 00z GFDL: 917mb and then 163mph at height, then a cat 4/cat 5 moving into SE LA





it means that at the 00Z run of the GFDL model, it was predicting a pressure of 917 MB and the highest winds at the surface of 163 MPH.

I guess that is attainable, but God I hope that is the high end of the model spectrum....


94 posted on 08/26/2005 11:57:51 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: MikeinIraq

Thankyou. Is 00z a time? And if so then how is it converted to normal time.


95 posted on 08/26/2005 11:59:42 PM PDT by Revel
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To: NautiNurse

wow.

That is something around 35-40 MB today....

Of course you could take a bath in the GOM, but still....

The thing that really worries me if that this entire SW turn wasn't even anticipated except by one model, which was off on the timing a few days ago.

I wonder how solid the intensity forecasts are, not to mention the locations.....

scary stuff indeed.


96 posted on 08/26/2005 11:59:55 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: Revel

00Z is midnight GMT or Midnight in London :)

Right now it is 0700Z (I may be adding wrong, it's been a looooooong day)


97 posted on 08/27/2005 12:00:48 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: MikeinIraq

Thanks again. It sounds like that model run was several hours ago if I understand correctly. Time to call it a night I guess.


98 posted on 08/27/2005 12:03:47 AM PDT by Revel
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To: NautiNurse

I was just looking at the water vapor image loops.

I think I see a couple things...

first of all, this is easily the best the storm has looked.

secondly, it appears that the high pressure both to the North and to the West remain strong (I think they pointed that out at 11PM as well).

third, the motion looks more like SW instead of WSW and I don't see anything to change it until at least the 1100AM timeframe....


99 posted on 08/27/2005 12:04:45 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: Revel

yeah...

NHC runs those models constantly, but they generally won't put out any kind of full update until 5 AM, or whenever the data if fully available....


100 posted on 08/27/2005 12:05:26 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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