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Skip to comments.Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Posted on 08/28/2005 2:38:16 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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Bourbon Street must be giving up...Shep said that a lot of the businesses along that street haven't even boarded up their windows!
Winds are now too high and variable for any aircraft takeoff or landing operations.
Anything still at the NO airport when this hits is going to be trashed, but you can't get them off the ground in this stuff.
During the storm it should be bearable, as the outside temps will be much cooler.
Yikes, it could become a super toilet bowl. :(
Reading these threads is like watching a train wreck...Fortunately, I think a lot of folks are gonna be disappointed...
I also thought this warning sounded too over-the-top to be real, but
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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...
.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.
MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.
THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.
HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.
AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.
POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.
AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!
She is the trumping force here. She is the cause now, not the effect.
Steal my foot. Just plain take it. They owe us...
its madness. do they have so little faith in their populace, that they have to do weapons and contraband searches for a public emergency like this?
The dumb hair-doo is crying about nothing but hypotheticals.
I feel like I am watching the Titanic sink. The mayor of NO just doesnt recognize and iceberg when he sees it staring him in the face.
TWC just said possible weakening, but still catastrophic
pressure up 1 mb, but probably just a fluctuation......looks dang strong
I am praying for each and every one of them.
More heavy rain bands about to hit NO.
If the water starts coming in those people on the ground floor are going to try to climb into the stands.
The vision I am seeing is very ugly if that happens.
Prayers for them and all in the path of Katrina.
I, too, have a foreboding feeling that nothing will ever be the same again in New Orleans. I go there about 8 times a year for four days at a time for my work. Was supposed to go this week, and supposed to go in October. Now I wonder, as I pray and pray for my many friends from that area and my own beloved Mississippi Gulf Coast.
Interisting how no official has mentioned that.
They have been talking about most windows blowing out in high rises. But no talking about the dangers at the Dame.
The Red Cross will have a concession stand selling it. LOL
That's why when we get hurricane warnings here in SC I make my plans to evacuate...I'd never leave my best friend behind!
Didn't think of that....seriously what happens with all those people and their personal business? (I didn't see any porta facilities?)
well, where is this thing going to hit then in your opinion?
I hope Shep will be able to get to the roof, or at least someplace higher. From what I remember, there are taller buildings there, but it sounds like the one he's in will be underwater before this is over.
Re: Shep - I thought I heard a bit of fear in his voice a little while ago--I think the coat hanger latches at the Royal Sonesta sent him a message.
I'd like to know when they plan on opeing more...After it hits full force. This is folly.
I'm having positively GHOULISH feelings about the Superdome. This just has the ring of tragedy.
The mayor (I think) of NO was just asked on wwl tv if the price for a barrow of oil would go to $70.00
His reply was that "I think it will go higher than that"
Nagin: superdome open as last resort; 25-30,000 there; still nervous, not opening up other shelters; next phase 6 PM curfew---this will be last pick-up; curfew means lockdown no police, fire, ems services, except some police; will be pounded 14 hours; expect devestation, collapsed buildings,national guard, lots of boats in streets, most buildings expect to survive 165 mph, few 200 mpn, very naive to not expect casualties, so much water will topple levees; parts of city may be uninhabitable for a while; two weeks to drain city, pumps inoperable when submerged, max output of pumps 1 to 1.5 inches per hour; electricity maybe 6 weeks to get back, maybe a whole lot quicker for water;not really concerned about toxic water--pumps to be flushed just before storm; "its gonna be a mess;" white house called Pres ready to move in and help; pipelines if shut will cause big jump in oil prices to over $70; "God bless us;" people calm, no violence; people need axes to bust through roofs to avoid flooding;need to be above 2nd floor.
You must not have been to New Orleans after dark before......
You called it. Bastardi called it too. I am sure you would rather be wrong. This is just absolutely horrible.
Prayers to these people. They are gonna need it.
It seems to have jogged west. NO is squarely in the cross hairs now.
TD-13 just formed in the Atlantic.
I'm concerned about Shep. Bourbon Street is not the place to be to ride out this storm - even in a 7th story hotel room. Prayers up for Shep and his fellow media guys.
"NO may be uninhabitable after this and the storm could concievably change the path of the Mississippi, with the effect of access to the Port of NO being cut off."
I hope the Superdome is built better than the World Trade Centers.
Why are people going into a single structure is beyond me . Is it the highest elevation around?
Just like a woman!
Before this is over, people will be wiping their b*tts with Red Cross hamburgers.
I think that part is hype. Having been in and around chemical plants on the Gulf Coast for years - they are prepared better than most for this scenario.
Beautiful picture. I was on a balcony on Bourbon Street about 2 months ago, throwing Mardi Gras beads to the crowd below. It was so much (clean) fun. At one point I looked down Bourbon at the sea of people moving up and down the street as far as the eye could see, with those historic buildings on both sides. It was such a sight... How little did I know that that might be the last time I'd ever see that view. Makes me start crying all over again.
They just got it completed. Many dunes had just completed being replentished, HWY98 was just repaired.
As of this afternoon, dunes are gone again, boardwalks already getting beaten, Holiday Isle and HWY 98 washing over.
All I can say is that it could've been much worse had the storm taken the track they were showing Friday morning
Does anyone know about the buoy's out from N.O. in the Gulf? Last night they were talking on Fox News or the National Hurricane Center about waves at 30 feet. Do we know about the buoy's today right now closer in to N.O.?
It's a little known fact that the script writer for that movie was none other than Carl Rove.
You're not familliar with NO are you?
But it would also mean an unprecedented economic opportunity, too. We could seriously consider abandoning the old Mississippi Delta area and build a completely new, properly-planned city located near the re-routed new Mississippi Delta--an opportunity that would mean millions of jobs, especially in the construction industry.
My bet is that plans are to bring in multiple porta-potties. Also probably on the way are crates of MRE's or other methods of food. Someone on the ball should have been going around the city collecting leftover food from restaurants which are closed or going to close. Hopefully, there are dozens of large generators on the way, as well to keep at least minimal lights on and maybe run the fans.
It would be foolish not to plan for those folks in the Superdome to be there for 2 days or more. That means some means for minimal power production, lots of food, drinking water and of course, scads of extra potties. Flush toilets are going to be useless once there's flooding.
So who is going to wave a magic wand and make Katrina disappear?
"During the storm it should be bearable, as the outside temps will be much cooler."
Hurricane wind is like high velocity dog's breath, in my experience. Hot and wet. But, I don't think many people are going to be obsessing about temps when it starts to howl outside.
That's roughly 700 people per bathroom. That's gonna be a mess, especially when the power goes out and the sewers back up from flooding.
The outside of the structure is solid. But the roof.... hard to say.
There is no "highest elevation." The Dome is the only concrete reinforced building available with any kind of height above street level.
I just pray it doesn't turn into a giant tomb.