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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
NOAA - NHC ^ | 28 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/28/2005 2:38:16 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Tuxedo

Bourbon Street must be giving up...Shep said that a lot of the businesses along that street haven't even boarded up their windows!


101 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:29 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: spetznaz

Winds are now too high and variable for any aircraft takeoff or landing operations.

Anything still at the NO airport when this hits is going to be trashed, but you can't get them off the ground in this stuff.


102 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Txsleuth

During the storm it should be bearable, as the outside temps will be much cooler.


103 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:34 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: EBH

Yikes, it could become a super toilet bowl. :(


104 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:46 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: All

Reading these threads is like watching a train wreck...Fortunately, I think a lot of folks are gonna be disappointed...


105 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:49 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Beelzebubba

I also thought this warning sounded too over-the-top to be real, but
IT IS!!

Scroll down a little on this page:

http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/us/allwarnings.html

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!


106 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:52 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Warren_Piece

She is the trumping force here. She is the cause now, not the effect.


107 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:59 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: kx9088
Steal Iraqi oil.

Steal my foot. Just plain take it. They owe us...

108 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:59 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: WestCoastGal

its madness. do they have so little faith in their populace, that they have to do weapons and contraband searches for a public emergency like this?


109 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:08 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dog
It lacks any degree of professionalism

The dumb hair-doo is crying about nothing but hypotheticals.

110 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:13 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: WestCoastGal

I feel like I am watching the Titanic sink. The mayor of NO just doesnt recognize and iceberg when he sees it staring him in the face.

TWC just said possible weakening, but still catastrophic


111 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:16 PM PDT by del4hope (Here in Central Alabama...Battening Down the Hatches III)
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To: EBH

pressure up 1 mb, but probably just a fluctuation......looks dang strong


112 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:25 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: GOP_Proud
I'll never forget the pictures of all those people waiting to get into the SuperDome.

I am praying for each and every one of them.

113 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:38 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Txsleuth

More heavy rain bands about to hit NO.


114 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:43 PM PDT by Tuxedo (This space for rent.)
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To: EBH
I can't see them using the ground floor of the super dome.

If the water starts coming in those people on the ground floor are going to try to climb into the stands.

The vision I am seeing is very ugly if that happens.

115 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:47 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of Note)
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To: mewzilla
Sure hope Shep and Geoff (Jeff?) will be safe.

Prayers for them and all in the path of Katrina.

116 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:53 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: SE Mom

I, too, have a foreboding feeling that nothing will ever be the same again in New Orleans. I go there about 8 times a year for four days at a time for my work. Was supposed to go this week, and supposed to go in October. Now I wonder, as I pray and pray for my many friends from that area and my own beloved Mississippi Gulf Coast.


117 posted on 08/28/2005 2:51:53 PM PDT by pollyg107
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To: WestCoastGal
They had better open most of the doors at the Dome during the storm or it could crush like a tin can from the pressure.

Interisting how no official has mentioned that.

They have been talking about most windows blowing out in high rises. But no talking about the dangers at the Dame.

118 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:02 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: myprecious
How many rolls of paper?

The Red Cross will have a concession stand selling it. LOL

119 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:09 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: RDTF

That's why when we get hurricane warnings here in SC I make my plans to evacuate...I'd never leave my best friend behind!


120 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:10 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: EBH; Overtaxed

Didn't think of that....seriously what happens with all those people and their personal business? (I didn't see any porta facilities?)


121 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:15 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: dakine

well, where is this thing going to hit then in your opinion?


122 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:23 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Txsleuth

I hope Shep will be able to get to the roof, or at least someplace higher. From what I remember, there are taller buildings there, but it sounds like the one he's in will be underwater before this is over.


123 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:24 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: mhking; EBH

Re: Shep - I thought I heard a bit of fear in his voice a little while ago--I think the coat hanger latches at the Royal Sonesta sent him a message.


124 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:41 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Ingtar

I'd like to know when they plan on opeing more...After it hits full force. This is folly.


125 posted on 08/28/2005 2:52:49 PM PDT by travelagent (Ohio)
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To: LadyBuzz

I'm having positively GHOULISH feelings about the Superdome. This just has the ring of tragedy.

;(``


126 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:00 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

The mayor (I think) of NO was just asked on wwl tv if the price for a barrow of oil would go to $70.00

His reply was that "I think it will go higher than that"


127 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:00 PM PDT by Revel
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To: mhking

Nagin: superdome open as last resort; 25-30,000 there; still nervous, not opening up other shelters; next phase 6 PM curfew---this will be last pick-up; curfew means lockdown no police, fire, ems services, except some police; will be pounded 14 hours; expect devestation, collapsed buildings,national guard, lots of boats in streets, most buildings expect to survive 165 mph, few 200 mpn, very naive to not expect casualties, so much water will topple levees; parts of city may be uninhabitable for a while; two weeks to drain city, pumps inoperable when submerged, max output of pumps 1 to 1.5 inches per hour; electricity maybe 6 weeks to get back, maybe a whole lot quicker for water;not really concerned about toxic water--pumps to be flushed just before storm; "its gonna be a mess;" white house called Pres ready to move in and help; pipelines if shut will cause big jump in oil prices to over $70; "God bless us;" people calm, no violence; people need axes to bust through roofs to avoid flooding;need to be above 2nd floor.


128 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:04 PM PDT by Founding Father (According to the Pres, I'm a vigilante; according to me, he's a Fox butt kisser)
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To: oceanview
do they have so little faith in their populace, that they have to do weapons and contraband searches for a public emergency like this?

You must not have been to New Orleans after dark before......

129 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:04 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: NautiNurse

You called it. Bastardi called it too. I am sure you would rather be wrong. This is just absolutely horrible.

Prayers to these people. They are gonna need it.

It seems to have jogged west. NO is squarely in the cross hairs now.

TD-13 just formed in the Atlantic.


130 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:11 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: NautiNurse

Probably.....


131 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:11 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: Txsleuth

I'm concerned about Shep. Bourbon Street is not the place to be to ride out this storm - even in a 7th story hotel room. Prayers up for Shep and his fellow media guys.


132 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:11 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: commish

"NO may be uninhabitable after this and the storm could concievably change the path of the Mississippi, with the effect of access to the Port of NO being cut off."

I hope the Superdome is built better than the World Trade Centers.

Why are people going into a single structure is beyond me . Is it the highest elevation around?


133 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:11 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Warren_Piece

Just like a woman!


134 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:18 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: vox humana

Before this is over, people will be wiping their b*tts with Red Cross hamburgers.


135 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:22 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Behold the Riderless Pony. Bringing doom and destruction on a smaller scale.)
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To: WestCoastGal
a chemical plant area probably spilling the chemicals in the water,

I think that part is hype. Having been in and around chemical plants on the Gulf Coast for years - they are prepared better than most for this scenario.

136 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:32 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: maggief
"Super Toilet Bowl"..LOL. Got to have a little humor, maggie!

sw

137 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:38 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (God Save New Orleans)
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To: Beelzebubba

Beautiful picture. I was on a balcony on Bourbon Street about 2 months ago, throwing Mardi Gras beads to the crowd below. It was so much (clean) fun. At one point I looked down Bourbon at the sea of people moving up and down the street as far as the eye could see, with those historic buildings on both sides. It was such a sight... How little did I know that that might be the last time I'd ever see that view. Makes me start crying all over again.


138 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:41 PM PDT by LibSnubber (Lafayette, LA........PRAYER AGAINST STORMS on my homepage)
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To: Warren_Piece

They just got it completed. Many dunes had just completed being replentished, HWY98 was just repaired.

As of this afternoon, dunes are gone again, boardwalks already getting beaten, Holiday Isle and HWY 98 washing over.

All I can say is that it could've been much worse had the storm taken the track they were showing Friday morning


139 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:48 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: NautiNurse

Does anyone know about the buoy's out from N.O. in the Gulf? Last night they were talking on Fox News or the National Hurricane Center about waves at 30 feet. Do we know about the buoy's today right now closer in to N.O.?


140 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:59 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: dfwgator
Of course the Superdome saved New Orleans before. Does anyone remember that made-for-TV movie where the killer bees invaded New Orleans, and they defeated the bees by driving them into the Superdome then turned down the A/C in the dome to kill bees off?

It's a little known fact that the script writer for that movie was none other than Carl Rove.

141 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:59 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: oceanview

You're not familliar with NO are you?


142 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:04 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: commish
This storm could have epic repercussions for our country. NO may be uninhabitable after this and the storm could concievably change the path of the Mississippi, with the effect of access to the Port of NO being cut off.

But it would also mean an unprecedented economic opportunity, too. We could seriously consider abandoning the old Mississippi Delta area and build a completely new, properly-planned city located near the re-routed new Mississippi Delta--an opportunity that would mean millions of jobs, especially in the construction industry.

143 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: justche

My bet is that plans are to bring in multiple porta-potties. Also probably on the way are crates of MRE's or other methods of food. Someone on the ball should have been going around the city collecting leftover food from restaurants which are closed or going to close. Hopefully, there are dozens of large generators on the way, as well to keep at least minimal lights on and maybe run the fans.

It would be foolish not to plan for those folks in the Superdome to be there for 2 days or more. That means some means for minimal power production, lots of food, drinking water and of course, scads of extra potties. Flush toilets are going to be useless once there's flooding.


144 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by randita
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To: dakine
If reading this read is like a train wreck....why did you post on it?

So who is going to wave a magic wand and make Katrina disappear?

145 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:18 PM PDT by Dog ( "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie.")
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To: EBH
Eye is now visible on long-range New Orleans radar (traditional display loop/experimental display static). The center of the eye is about 220 south-southeast of New Orleans.
146 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:28 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"During the storm it should be bearable, as the outside temps will be much cooler."

Hurricane wind is like high velocity dog's breath, in my experience. Hot and wet. But, I don't think many people are going to be obsessing about temps when it starts to howl outside.


147 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: justche
I heard the reporter at the Dome say 102 bathrooms....72,000 people....

That's roughly 700 people per bathroom. That's gonna be a mess, especially when the power goes out and the sewers back up from flooding.

148 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:38 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: spanalot

The outside of the structure is solid. But the roof.... hard to say.


149 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:45 PM PDT by Tuxedo (This space for rent.)
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To: spanalot
Is it the highest elevation around?

There is no "highest elevation." The Dome is the only concrete reinforced building available with any kind of height above street level.

I just pray it doesn't turn into a giant tomb.

150 posted on 08/28/2005 2:54:45 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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