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It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
CNN ^ | Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT | CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

New Orleans orders evacuation Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph

Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency on Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city as Hurricane Katrina churned toward the city with maximum sustained winds of nearly 175 mph.

All of Orleans Parish falls under the order except for necessary personnel in government, emergency and some other public service categories.

People who are unable to evacuate were told to immediately report to a designated shelter.

"I wish I had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared," Nagin said. "I do not want to create panic, but I do want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature."

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

About 485,000 people live in the city, and many began evacuating before sunrise.

Blanco said that westbound traffic was heavy and that the state police was urging people to travel to the north or east.

Shelters have been set up at 10 sites, including the Superdome, for people who cannot leave the city for medical or other reasons, but Nagin said they should be used only as a "last resort." (See video from New Orleans, where not all are ready to leave)

He said people who must stay in the shelter should bring enough food, water and supplies to last several days.

The National Hurricane Center in Miami said low-lying areas along the Gulf Coast could expect storm surges of up to 25 feet as the Category 5 storm makes landfall early Monday.

Officials fear New Orleans is vulnerable because it sits an average of 6 feet below sea level. (Watch video of how New Orleans reacted to warning)

Nagin said the storm surge would likely topple the levy system that protects the city.

"It has the potential for a large loss of life," said Max Mayfield, director of the NHC. (Watch CNN meteorologist explain storm outlook)

Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)

At 10 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 225 miles south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. It was moving to the west-northwest at about 12 mph.

NHC forecaster Ed Rappaport said Katrina's strength could fluctuate before it reaches shore but noted the difference between a high Category 4 and a low Category 5 was practically inconsequential.

"There will be extensive to potentially catastrophic damage to many structures ... and inland," he said. "We'll have a lot of trees that are going to come down, perhaps millions of trees. But the first threat is going to be the storm surge. You must get away from the coast now."

By 8:30 a.m. ET, the first bands of rain were falling over southeastern Louisiana.

CNN meteorologist Brad Huffines said the Katrina would come ashore "sometime between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m." Monday.

"The news doesn't get good, unfortunately," he said. "These rain showers will slow down the evacuation process, and that means you need to hit the road quickly, very quickly."

Worst-case scenario In worst-case scenarios, most of New Orleans would end up under 15 feet of water, without electricity, clean water and sewage for months. Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater.

"People in New Orleans tend to think that the storm we've always planned on would never come," Louisiana National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said. "But people need to heed that warning."

Rappaport cautioned that New Orleans was not the only area threatened -- the storm's hurricane winds spread out as far as 100 miles. As far east as Mobile, Alabama, forecasters warned of storm surges reaching 8 to 10 feet.

Hurricane warnings were posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions, including winds of at least 74 mph, are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch were issued from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Another tropical storm warning was issued Sunday from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.

A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.

Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.

Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.

Category 5 is the highest category on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane intensity. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.

Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.

Oil production cut U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday due to the threatening storm, Reuters reported.

The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)

Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)

CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blamegame; blanco; bush; cary; evacuation; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; nagini; neworleans; neworleansflood; pajamapeoplerule
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Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.
1 posted on 09/02/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by joinedafterattack
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To: joinedafterattack

Tough Talk by W


2 posted on 09/02/2005 2:24:12 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: joinedafterattack

GREAT find.


3 posted on 09/02/2005 2:24:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
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To: joinedafterattack

Great catch BUMPMARK


4 posted on 09/02/2005 2:25:38 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: joinedafterattack

Why is this not a surprise to any of us in this forum?


5 posted on 09/02/2005 2:26:00 PM PDT by guitarnick40 (When a liberal is in doubt, all they do is scream and shout racism.)
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To: joinedafterattack
And I understand their evacuation plan required 72 hours to complete.

I thought Bush was on vacation in Crawford? Do you mean that he interrupted his vacation to call the governor? Maybe the mayor and governor were on vacation until 24 hours before the storm was scheduled to hit.

6 posted on 09/02/2005 2:26:04 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: joinedafterattack

That should have been the headline.


7 posted on 09/02/2005 2:26:21 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: joinedafterattack

BTTT for Bush!


8 posted on 09/02/2005 2:27:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: joinedafterattack

Worth reminding those who conveniently "forgot" about this news last week...

9 posted on 09/02/2005 2:27:35 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: joinedafterattack

I heard this on one of news networks early on. I hope this story gets widespread coverage, because the public perception is GW was late coming out of the gate, when in fact it was Blanco and Nagin.


10 posted on 09/02/2005 2:28:23 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: joinedafterattack

this is impossible. bush was vacationing and we all know there are no phones, computers or communications links in crawford.

eff you liberal swine.


11 posted on 09/02/2005 2:28:31 PM PDT by jw777
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To: joinedafterattack

GOOD FIND. As much as CNN and others want to pin everything that has gone wrong on President Bush, it's the local authorities that dropped the ball in the very beginning. It really says something when the POTUS has to call a state Gov. and "urge" him/her to order an evacuation. She should have ordered one and didn't.


12 posted on 09/02/2005 2:28:31 PM PDT by PilloryHillary
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To: joinedafterattack

ANY Governor (including Gov. Tax Hike Mike here in N.C.) would have ordered an evacuation of its coastline and major cities. Except for Gov. Inept in Lousiana - she needed to hear from the President on this?!?. The non-leadership shown by the Governor of Lousiana and the Mayor of New Orleans is frightenling bad and has cost (and continues to cost)many people their lives.

President Bush has more patience than I do for idiots like those two....




13 posted on 09/02/2005 2:28:39 PM PDT by GOPRaleigh (Results may vary.)
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To: joinedafterattack

Truth wins out over the blame game


14 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:05 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: All

Bump this over to DU.


15 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:05 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: joinedafterattack

"Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation."

Tell this to the Black Caucus and Jesse (The Moth) Jackson. You can find him near the brightest camera lights screaming racism.


16 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:08 PM PDT by guitarnick40 (When a liberal is in doubt, all they do is scream and shout racism.)
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To: joinedafterattack

Are we sure the evacuation order was given on Sunday, not Saturday? If it didn't happen until Sunday, that is almost criminal.


17 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:08 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: joinedafterattack
I had heard that even before the storm hit.

And the CBC can go to hell.

The 'government' is us, the American taxpayer who provides the funds for relief and a lot of other things minorities enjoy.

We send money and our prayers and I for one do not appreciate being called a racist.

Jackson wants to pretend there are not evil low life scum in his community, then so be it.

WE KNOW

18 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:20 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: joinedafterattack
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

19 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:21 PM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: joinedafterattack
Dollars to Donuts this is going to DISAPPEAR off the CNN website. Does somebody know how to "mirror" a site to save this for latter?
PS I HATE CNN!!
20 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:25 PM PDT by msnimje (TAKE CNN OFF YOUR REMOTE - THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE US)
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To: joinedafterattack

Yup- it is President Bush's fault that there are so many people to shelter and feed. The Mayor of NO was trying to keep that bill down for us.


21 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:29 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: joinedafterattack
Great find!
BTTT!
22 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: joinedafterattack

Blanco is history next election. Hate to say it but people don't want to see tears flowing out of your eyes during a natural disaster, they want some leadership.


23 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:50 PM PDT by John Lenin (Liberalism: Where shame is a virtue)
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To: uncitizen

I also remember Haley Barbor pleading - err "I BEG YOU TO LEAVE" in Mississippi yet in LA they let the party go on all night & didn't clear out French Quarter.


24 posted on 09/02/2005 2:29:55 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: joinedafterattack

Makes you wonder why the mayor had not planned for this. I don't know how to get the picture, but there is a picture of 100's of school buses in the water that could have been used.


25 posted on 09/02/2005 2:31:15 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: Trust but Verify
"Are we sure the evacuation order was given on Sunday, not Saturday? If it didn't happen until Sunday, that is almost criminal."

This was a Sunday news report, so it happened Saturday or earlier prior to the news deadline.

26 posted on 09/02/2005 2:31:49 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: joinedafterattack
Hey joinedafterattack, Can you look on their Website (I can't go due to an extreme. life threatening CNN allergy) for the fact that President Bush Declared LA and MISS disaster areas BEFORE the storm hit and how much praise the locals gave him for that BOLD MOVE?
27 posted on 09/02/2005 2:31:52 PM PDT by msnimje (TAKE CNN OFF YOUR REMOTE - THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE US)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Nagin has shown that he is a classless POS, who was only elected because of skin color. Boortz was AWESOME today, touching on just that.


28 posted on 09/02/2005 2:32:22 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle
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To: joinedafterattack

BIG BTTT!

:)

29 posted on 09/02/2005 2:32:25 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: joinedafterattack

The spin may be that President Bush urged an evacuation but failed to provide the means to do so.


30 posted on 09/02/2005 2:32:46 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
If I remember the last week correctly, Nagin spent last Saturday consulting with lawyers on the liabilities that would result from a mandatory evacuation.

But just one more time for the "Bush's fault" crowd:

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

Just imagine if he didn't.

31 posted on 09/02/2005 2:32:53 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: msnimje

SAVED.


32 posted on 09/02/2005 2:33:15 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Steven W.

Also add that when he said "it will be as bad or worse than Camille" that people listened and realized they better get out.


33 posted on 09/02/2005 2:33:30 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: joinedafterattack

Absiolutely right. This President saved MILLIONS of Lives because the Governors couldn't handle it themselves. And they DARE to say HE is responsible? HELL NO!


34 posted on 09/02/2005 2:34:10 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Ah, how sweet)
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To: GSWarrior

Then release the pic of all those buses that are parked in water right now in NO!

The local/state leadership in NO IS criminal...


35 posted on 09/02/2005 2:34:31 PM PDT by GOPRaleigh (Results may vary.)
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; EllaMinnow; ...

PING


36 posted on 09/02/2005 2:34:49 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: joinedafterattack

GREAT catch.


37 posted on 09/02/2005 2:34:53 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Ohio State (-14.5) vs. Miami of Ohio, September 3rd)
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To: joinedafterattack

Truth bump


38 posted on 09/02/2005 2:35:11 PM PDT by paradoxical
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To: Trust but Verify
Are we sure the evacuation order was given on Sunday, not Saturday? If it didn't happen until Sunday, that is almost criminal.

The mandatory evacuation order didn't happen until Sunday (somewhere around 9:30 am). A voluntary order went out at 4:45 pm Saturday.

39 posted on 09/02/2005 2:35:21 PM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said the state was recommending evacuations along the coast "and even several counties inland." Mandatory evacuations could follow later, he said.
40 posted on 09/02/2005 2:36:55 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.
41 posted on 09/02/2005 2:37:05 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: joinedafterattack

bump


42 posted on 09/02/2005 2:37:05 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: joinedafterattack

bump


43 posted on 09/02/2005 2:37:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: joinedafterattack
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44 posted on 09/02/2005 2:37:35 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: joinedafterattack

Thank you President Bush! Too bad the locals were so unprepared and thus overwhelmed.

And thanks for finding and posting this. joinedafter...


45 posted on 09/02/2005 2:37:59 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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Bump. This needs to stay in view.


46 posted on 09/02/2005 2:38:01 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: joinedafterattack
Good detective work.

This is a bit staggering: "Even pumping the water out could take as long as four months to get started because the massive pumps that would do the job would be underwater."

48 posted on 09/02/2005 2:38:45 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: joinedafterattack

Of course, it's President Bush's fault that the evacuation didn't start sooner, because he either stupidly failed to realize that Governor Blanco would be sitting around waiting for him to call and order an evacuation.

Or else he realized but deliberately delayed the call because he wanted as many poor black people to drown as possible. But then he wouldn't have as many poor black people to ship off to Iraq as cannon fodder for his imperialist oil-grabbing attack on that previously free and wonderful country. . . . Gee, what could President Bush have been thinking?

Leftism is just too confusing for my simple right-wing-robot mind. I can't seem to get the hang of it.


49 posted on 09/02/2005 2:38:50 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mo1

BTTT


Thanks Mo. Keeping this thing bumped.


50 posted on 09/02/2005 2:39:09 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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