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At Least 5 Killed By Police In New Orleans (Bad Guys Killed-Not Contractors)
WCCO.com ^ | 4 September A.D. 2004 | CBS

Posted on 09/04/2005 5:12:33 PM PDT by lightman

CBS) NEW ORLEANS Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

Fourteen contractors were traveling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breech in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.

None of the contractors was killed, Hall said.

The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

No other details, including whether any of the gunmen were killed, were immediately available.

The shootings come as the last weary refugees had been rescued from the Superdome and convention center and New Orleans turned its attention Sunday to gathering up and counting the dead across a ghastly landscape awash in thousands of corpses.

The bodies of those killed in Hurricane Katrina are everywhere: hidden in attics, floating in the ruined city, crumpled in wheelchairs, abandoned on highways.

"I think it's evident it's in the thousands," Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt said Sunday on CNN, echoing predictions by city and state officials last week about the death toll.

Craig Vanderwagen, rear admiral of the U.S. Public Health Service, said one morgue alone, at a St. Gabriel prison, expected 1,000 to 2,000 bodies.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said it was likely thousands were dead based on the city's population of 500,000, the percentage who left before the storm hit and the number evacuated from the shelters.

"So you probably have another 50-60,000 out there," Nagin said. "You do the math, man, what do you think? Five percent is unreasonable? Ten percent? Twenty percent? It's going to be a big number."

"We are still in the emergency. People must take seriously the fact that we have enormous ongoing challenges which we have to address right now or we're going to continue to have serious problems," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff Told CBS's Face The Nation.

Chertoddd warned the the scene was going to be as ugly as anyone can imagine.

He added rescuers going house to house have encountered a significant number of people who have said they do not want to evacuate, hindering relief efforts.

"We have to get them to shelter. We have to get them educated. We have to get them semi-permanent housing. We've got to dewater and clean up New Orleans. We've got an enormous challenge, and we've got one in Mississippi and in other parts of Louisiana and Alabama."

CBS News Correspondent Byron Pitts reports that at least 30 patients have died at the airport since Wednesday.

Sunday morning, a woman's body remained lying at the corner of Jackson Avenue and Magazine Street,, a business area in the lower Garden District with antique shops on the edge of blighted housing. The body had been there since at least Wednesday.

As days passed, people covered her with blankets or plastic.

By Sunday, a short wall of bricks had been built around her body, holding down a plastic tarpaulin. On it, someone had spray-painted a cross and the words, "Here lies Vera. God help us."

Leavitt said he had received a report of an outbreak of dysentery in Biloxi, Mississippi, with disease among the concerns of federal officials in the hurricane's aftermath. Dysentery is a painful intestinal disease that can cause dehydration and can sometimes be fatal.

The lack of clean drinking water in parts of the Gulf Coast region and standing flood waters with decomposing bodies and human waste in the streets of New Orleans could cause a rash of infectious diseases, including West Nile virus and the often fatal E. coli bacteria.

"All of the infectious diseases that occur when people are in large congregations of people can spread," Leavitt said.

Amid widespread criticism about a slow and ineffectual response to the crisis, the Bush administration dispatched several top officials to the region: Chertoff, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard Myers and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush visited the Red Cross' disaster operation center, where they thanked employees. The president also announced that the White House would hold a blood drive on Friday.

Chertoff defended the job of Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown and declined to get into a discussion about whether the government moved quickly and forcefully enough to deal with the catastrophe, saying there would be plenty of time for a review.

Chertoff told Face The Nation: "I think that the lesson of this hurricane, which we will clearly look at as we go over an after-action evaluation, is going to be very valuable in moving forward. I mean, this was an ultra-catastrophe, but we have to be prepared even for ultra-catastrophes, even things that happen once in a lifetime and once in a generation. So, yes, we will be studying that."

Three babies died at the convention center from heat exhaustion, said Mark Kyle, a medical relief provider.

But some progress was evident. The last 300 refugees at the Superdome were evacuated Saturday evening, eliciting cheers from members of the Texas National Guard who had been standing watch over the facility for nearly a week as some 20,000 hurricane survivors waited for rescue.

On Sunday, utilities planned to send trucks into the city to assess storm damage for the first time since Katrina struck. Morgan Stewart, a spokesman for electricity provider Entergy Corp., said the National Guard would escort the company's vehicles.

The convention center was "almost empty" after 4,200 people were removed, according to Marty Bahamonde, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Earlier estimates of the crowd climbed as high as 25,000.

Thousands of evacuees dragged their meager belongings to buses, the mood more numb than jubilant. Yolando Sanders, who had been stuck at the convention center for five days, was among those who filed past corpses to reach the buses.

"Anyplace is better than here," she said.

"People are dying over there."

Nearby, a woman lay dead in a wheelchair on the front steps. A man was covered in a black drape with a dry line of blood running to the gutter, where it had pooled. Another had lain on a chaise lounge for four days, his stocking feet poking out from under a quilt.

By mid-afternoon, only pockets of stragglers remained in the streets around the convention center, and New Orleans paramedics began carting away the dead.

The exact number of dead won't be known for some time. Survivors were still being plucked from roofs and shattered highways across the city. President Bush ordered more than 7,000 active duty forces to the Gulf Coast on Saturday.

"There are people in apartments and hotels that you didn't know were there," Army Brig. Gen. Mark Graham said.

The overwhelming majority of those stranded in the post-Katrina chaos were those without the resources to escape, and, overwhelmingly, they were black.

"The first few days were a natural disaster. The last four days were a man-made disaster," said Phillip Holt, 51, who was rescued from his home Saturday with his partner.

Tens of thousands of people had been evacuated from the city, seeking safety in Texas, Tennessee and many other states.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: beyondsuperdome; corrupt; crime; danzigerbridge; gangsters; hurricane; katrina; katrinafailures; looters; madmax; nationalguard; neworleans; nopd; roadwarrior
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Unlike previous discussions, this article makes clear that the NOPD fired upon and killed gunmen who were attacking workers. Rescue workers were not killed and were not fired upon. Includes statement by HOPD Chief.
1 posted on 09/04/2005 5:12:33 PM PDT by lightman
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To: lightman

This story still has something suspicious about it.
Ok,five snipers killed by NOPD.Great news.
Now lets see names,ages,and pics since I'm sure these thugs have a record out there doing more dirt.


2 posted on 09/04/2005 5:15:42 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: lightman

Is hiz honor, Mayor Ray Nagin, still in his drug bunker?


3 posted on 09/04/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: lightman

Tell me when it reaches 100.


4 posted on 09/04/2005 5:16:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: lightman

What do you call 5 dead looting, killing and raping thugs?






A good start.


5 posted on 09/04/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Life is short, dance nekkid and wiggle your butt!)
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To: ncountylee

nah..he was on 60 minutes tonight dissin the gov..who needs it, and Pres. Bush..who doesn't..


6 posted on 09/04/2005 5:19:29 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
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To: lightman

"Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said."




If it didn't say New Orleans before the start of this story, I'd think we were talking about Iraq. How sad is this.


9 posted on 09/04/2005 5:21:56 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Riverman94610

How do we know that it is not Islamic cell groups activated to cause political and social unrest during the diseaster? All my years of hearing about hurricane diseaster, rarely does criminals shoot at helicopters. Most of the time they want to be unnoticed as they go about looting.


10 posted on 09/04/2005 5:22:54 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Fee

You are remembering the days before the left ginned up violent hatred It's cultural in the US now. Look for more, not less.


13 posted on 09/04/2005 5:37:19 PM PDT by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. have a nice day.)
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To: seamole

I don't think the thread needs to be pulled since Fox is now reporting confirming this story. While there have been various versions, which described the gunmen as "looters" and another said the contractors were killed, this appears to be the right one.


14 posted on 09/04/2005 5:37:38 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: seamole; Admin Moderator
Story is still very much on the AP page as of five minutes ago at http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050904/D8CDO9OG0.html

Note the byline timestamp:

Sep 4, 7:35 PM (ET)

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six.

Fourteen contractors were traveling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers.

They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breech in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.

None of the contractors was injured, Mike Rogers, a disaster relief coordinator with the Army Corps of Engineers, told reporters in Baton Rouge.

The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

No other details were immediately available.

15 posted on 09/04/2005 5:38:42 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman

I've been reading about this on the web and even the latest version makes no sense at ALL.

What could the possible motive be? Even if they were gang banger thugs, what is that they were trying to protect? A flooded and useless city filled with dead bodies?


16 posted on 09/04/2005 5:49:04 PM PDT by BallyBill (MSNBC: the MST3K of cable news.)
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To: lightman

I'd like some verification on the "bad guys". Names, identification, photos, rap sheet if US born. Status if illegal, or "visiting the States" on a foreign Visa.

Let the FBI and INS do thorough checks. Then deliver the dirt.

Jack.


18 posted on 09/04/2005 5:54:59 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: seamole; Admin Moderator
"Story killed - please pull thread."

I just heard CBS news report on this, but saying there are conflicting stories.

19 posted on 09/04/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: lightman

We should've had this kind of response *days* ago. At least they're finally giving these terrorists (and what else can you call them?) what they deserve!


20 posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:40 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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