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Vietnamese evacuees shun shelters - Sticking together cuts them off from government aid
Houston Chronicle ^ | Sept. 9, 2005 | EDWARD HEGSTROM

Posted on 09/10/2005 6:36:51 AM PDT by angkor

With Vietnamese evacuees continuing to pour into Houston, some Asian representatives worry the community may be trying to do too much on its own.

The uncounted thousands of Vietnamese storm victims are not going to the Astrodome or the George R. Brown Convention Center to seek help from the government, leaders say. Instead, many gather at Hong Kong City Mall on Bellaire, a privately run mall where they are being connected with ample free food and housing from fellow Vietnamese — help that cannot last indefinitely.

"The problem is, because the Vietnamese are not in the shelters, they are not receiving assistance" from the government and the American Red Cross, said Nguyen Dinh Thang, the head of Boat People S.O.S., a group that has helped Vietnamese from its Hong Kong City Mall office.

Many of the Vietnamese from New Orleans and Mississippi are staying with family and friends, while others are staying at Vietnamese Catholic churches and Buddhist temples. Some need medical attention, and many continue to look for lost relatives.

Seeks wife and daughter Nguyen Van Thanh, 37, a shrimper, was at sea when the storm neared, and he called his wife via cell phone to tell her to wait for him in New Orleans. His boat landed a day or two after the hurricane hit, and he was shocked to find the city abandoned and his family missing. He made his way to Houston last week and has stayed at the Vietnam Buddhist Temple while putting the word out on Vietnamese radio that he is looking for his wife and 4-year-old daughter.

"I'm very afraid," he said through an interpreter.

Some Vietnamese say they expect to stay in Houston permanently, which should solidify the city's role as the Vietnamese cultural center for the Gulf Coast. Though no one has an exact estimate, leaders say they think well more than 10,000 Vietnamese evacuees are now in Houston, on top of the 60,000 who already live in the region.

Quan Huynh, the president of the Vietnamese American Community in Louisiana, said he has talked to a number of evacuees who first went to Dallas and Austin but are coming to Houston because they hear it is the center for resettlement.

About 24,000 Vietnamese lived in Louisiana and another 5,000 each lived in Mississippi and Alabama, according to the 2000 Census. Many worked in the fishing industry, which meant they lived in the areas hardest hit by Katrina: New Orleans; Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss.; Mobile and Bayou la Batre, Ala.

With shrimp prices so low and diesel prices so high, many Vietnamese shrimpers were considering leaving the fishing towns even before Katrina hit. Pham Thanh, a shrimper from New Orleans, said he won't go back, even though he bought a house there less than a month ago.

"It used to be Louisiana, but now we call it Lousy-ana," said Thanh, who is staying at the Buddhist temple.

Some seeking aid Some Vietnamese are starting to take advantage of more mainstream services. Word spread recently that Catholic Charities was handing out $200 in cash to storm victims and $100 in grocery vouchers, and more than 4,000 Vietnamese showed up, Catholic Charities' Bob Fleming said.

"If you had driven by on Monday, you would have thought it was Saigon and we were lifting helicopters off the roof," Fleming said.

YMCA International Services also began helping a few families this week, said director Jeff Watkins.

"The Vietnamese are not plugged into the mainstream services, and they need to be," said Watkins, who speaks fluent Vietnamese. "The people who were coming into our office were getting desperate."

Some had been staying in hotels they could no longer afford, while others had worn out their welcome at the houses of friends and relatives.

Asian leaders met with Mayor Bill White and City councilmen Gordon Quan and M.J. Khan earlier this week to consider ways to coordinate relief efforts among Asians.

But Quan later acknowledged it was proving difficult to get the different Asian groups to work together.

"It's like herding cats," he said. "The groups each want to do it on their own."

While conceding that it is a sensitive topic, some Vietnamese leaders say their community is reluctant to seek help at the Astrodome in part because of a history of racial tensions between Vietnamese and blacks.

The Vietnamese perceive the Astrodome and convention center as being shelters for blacks, said Thang, the Boat People S.O.S. head.

Katrina hit less than nine months after the tsunami devastated much of Asia.

Thai Ambassador Kasit Piromya came to Houston on Thursday for a series of events including ThaiFest, a downtown festival being held today to highlight Thai food and culture.

The festival was originally designed to thank Houston for help after the tsunami.

But now, the Thai are returning the favor. After Katrina came ashore, organizers of ThaiFest announced that the money raised will be used to help the hurricane victims.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aid; evacuees; handout; katrina; selfsufficient; vietnamese; vietnameseamericans
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"Sticking together cuts them off from government aid"????

Huh.

Vietnamese-Americans have been making a massive and generous effort to help their fellows affected by Katrina.

1 posted on 09/10/2005 6:36:51 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
some Asian representatives worry the community may be trying to do too much on its own

Jesse must be shaking his head in disbelief ...

2 posted on 09/10/2005 6:40:26 AM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: angkor

Let me see if I understand. So the problem is that the Vietnamese are being too self sufficient and so we need to work out a strategy to make them more dependent? Why don't we force them into public schools? We'll have this self-sufficiency problem licked in a generation!

/sarcasm


3 posted on 09/10/2005 6:42:09 AM PDT by Huber (Katrina: a "weather system of peace")
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To: angkor

How DARE they help themselves?!?

They need to act like the others and demand demand demand.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 6:44:35 AM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: Huber

If they think the Vietmanese are too independent, the government and liberals never dealt with the Amish. In one aftermath of a severe tornado, most of the average American victims sat next to destroyed homes for a week waiting for the homeowner insurance check, the Amish from day one were getting together as a group and started to repair and rebuild homes, barns and etc.


5 posted on 09/10/2005 6:47:08 AM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: angkor

"While conceding that it is a sensitive topic, some Vietnamese leaders say their community is reluctant to seek help at the Astrodome in part because of a history of racial tensions between Vietnamese and blacks.

The Vietnamese perceive the Astrodome and convention center as being shelters for blacks, said Thang, the Boat People S.O.S. head."

Bears repeating.


7 posted on 09/10/2005 6:51:07 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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Yes, they are too self-sufficient. They don't know how to stick our their hands and whine. We must teach them the American way. Maybe just maybe they can model another way. How refreshing.


8 posted on 09/10/2005 6:52:41 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: angkor

Awww, it hurts not to be needed.


9 posted on 09/10/2005 6:53:31 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Huber

Yes, they are too self-sufficient. They don't know how to stick our their hands and whine. We must teach them the American way. Maybe just maybe they can model another way. How refreshing.


10 posted on 09/10/2005 6:54:18 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: angkor

Maybe they'd rather not take government aid. Nothing at all wrong with that. I applaud them for working together to rebuild.


11 posted on 09/10/2005 6:54:46 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Huber; All

The weird thrust of the story comes from Boat People S.O.S., an organization which gets a lot of funding from the feds, rather than from the Vietnamese community.

But the community organizations have been out and about delivering aid with a vengeance, and fast.

For example, several hunded evacuees showed up in Houston right after the storm. The local VN radio put out the call, and 80 percent of them were in private homes within 48 hours.


12 posted on 09/10/2005 6:56:19 AM PDT by angkor
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To: stopem

The Vietnamese, or the black?


13 posted on 09/10/2005 6:57:28 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Nuthin' ain't worth nuthin', but it's free.")
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To: LongElegantLegs

VIETNAMESE!


14 posted on 09/10/2005 6:58:24 AM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem

I have seen blacks go out of their way several times to harass viets with the chant "suckee 5 dollar" and then laugh as the girls hurry away and that was in leavenworth kansas. The viets gravitated to the businesses and areas where their families could work together ussually poor areas and the race baiters (sharpton ,jackson etal.) encouraged boycots and other liberal activities. to take back their communities and support only the brothers. I have never seen viets harrasing blacks or any other groups.


16 posted on 09/10/2005 7:02:30 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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So the problem is that the Vietnamese are being too self sufficient and so we need to work out a strategy to make them more dependent

They haven't been properly socialized.

They're a threat to the entire new world order.

They must be stopped at all costs.

< / sarcasm >

17 posted on 09/10/2005 7:02:47 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (A thousand Bravehearts are better than one)
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To: angkor

How can there be any Vietnamese evacuees? I thought that 100% of the displaced people were black, and hated by Bush??


18 posted on 09/10/2005 7:02:49 AM PDT by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: MizSterious
Maybe they'd rather not take government aid.

My understanding is that Social Security is A-OK, because it's for the elderly, who are usually venerated in Vietnamese culture and need to be cared for.

Taking "welfare" or other government aid is considered to be lazy.

19 posted on 09/10/2005 7:04:33 AM PDT by angkor
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To: bdfromlv

That's truly sick.

The Vietnamese are good hard working people and very proud people. I admire immigrants of their caliber.


20 posted on 09/10/2005 7:07:08 AM PDT by stopem
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