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This poll is another disgraceful piece of liberal bias.

THIS INFORMATION CAN NOT BE FOUND ON THE MSNBC SITE. THEY DO NOT PROVIDE A LINK IN THEIR NEWSWEEK SECTION AND NOW WE KNOW WHY.

Total Sample - 1,009 Registered Voters - 901

Therefore, 108 polled are not registered to vote. That means 11% of the people polled are not registered to vote.

Also, 40% of registered voters will not vote.

Therefore, 361 of the 901 registered voters sampled will NEVER vote.

This means only 540 of the 1,009 people polled will vote.

This means 53.5% of the people polled will vote, 46.5% of the people polled will NEVER vote.

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Now let's look at party affiliation:

Republicans - 300

Democrats - 334

Independents - 331

Other - 44

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Republicans - 29.7%

Democrats - 33.1%

Independents - 32.8%

Other - 4.4%

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Newsweek undersamples Republicans. 29% is 8 points lower than how many Republicans voted in 2004.

Much like the CBS poll, Newsweek buries people who lean Democrat in the Independent and Other columns. A useful trick for pollsters who bury their oversampling.

Today, Rasmussen has President Bush at a 50% approval among 'likely voters' and a 47% approval among 'national adults'.

FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!!!!!!!

1 posted on 09/11/2005 7:51:30 AM PDT by new yorker 77
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To: new yorker 77

I meant to say 1,009 national adults.

Only 901 are registered voters.


2 posted on 09/11/2005 7:53:14 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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Thank you very much for posting this. I have yet to be polled by any of these, even during election season...and with all the polls they've run, each person in the US, heck the world, could have participated in at least one of them. And THAT is why I don't bother listening to them.


3 posted on 09/11/2005 7:54:10 AM PDT by SueRae
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WOW! So that's how they generate all their nonsense that never seems to ring true. What a scam!


4 posted on 09/11/2005 7:55:00 AM PDT by kjo
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Newsweek is also saying the hurricane "delay" was Bush's fault because Bush should have sent the army in under Rumsfeld, the person Bush most relies upon. This is the same Rumsfeld they all said is a total screw up who should resign. Saw Newsweek "reporter" Adam something reach this conclusion on MSNBC this morning.


5 posted on 09/11/2005 7:55:19 AM PDT by Williams
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"Newsweek Poll - Only 29% of the polling sample are Republicans."

My guess is that these pollsters still play with dolls and toy soldiers. Mostly dolls though.

6 posted on 09/11/2005 7:55:36 AM PDT by Enterprise (When Rats govern they screw up and people die. Then, the Rats want to punch the President.)
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Is anyone surprised? I ALWAYS assume a bias against Republican in ANY poll conducted by the MSM.


9 posted on 09/11/2005 7:59:54 AM PDT by SuziQ
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29% is 8 points lower than how many Republicans voted in 2004.

And the 33% who are registered Democrats - that's how much lower than the number of Democrats who voted in 2004? You might want to examine both sides of the equation before jumping to too many conclusions. It's to be expected that registered members of both parties are more likely to vote in an election than unenrolled voters.

11 posted on 09/11/2005 8:00:47 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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Does it bother anybody that so many polls, that at least claim to be ramdom smaples, have Reps polling 29-30 %? Could Rep party ID have sunk that much? Let's be objective about this. I recall when Rasmusssen was ripped on this board.


16 posted on 09/11/2005 8:06:12 AM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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Of course this is what NewsWeek and the other MSM outlets do with their polling - Under sample R's and oversample D's -

These fake polls or push-opinion polls worked well in the past - Problem for the MSM is they are working less and less anymore - More and more people now know these polls are junk and tweaked for the result the MSM want - (which allows them to run "news" stories about) -

And the fact is these polls are now being written for the people conducting them (more than anything else) - Which is the MSM - They want to believe it so much, that they go out and tweak polls until they are meaningless in terms of reality....but nonetheless they at least feel good about looking at the results of their "fake" poll.

The MSM (and Democrat Party) are imploding before our eyes - They know the polls are junk, they know the push polling method doesn't work anymore, yet they still go ahead and waste all their energies producing them.....just for the few minutes of false gratification it brings them.

In the mean time President GWB just continues to lead and move the Country in the correct course.

A sidenote I would suggest Rasmussen (old POA) has a few years to go (with shown results) before one can take his polls seriously -

18 posted on 09/11/2005 8:06:25 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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And for extra credit, get a copy of the literal questions.

Published polls are propaganda. The decaying Legacy Media
loves them because they can treat them as (invented) news,
and mold the results to support their agendas.

Sometimes they aren't even really polls designed to
discover opinion, but instead are "push polls" intended
to create opinion. And we won't even talk about polls
that include solicitations for contributions.

There is agenda in deciding to run a poll.
There is agenda in choosing the topic.
There is agenda in scripting the questions.
There is agenda in selecting the subjects.
There is agenda in conducting the survey.
There is agenda in processing the data.
There is agenda in reporting the results.

"Real" polls are run by people who intend to act quietly
on the results, rather than for publication.


20 posted on 09/11/2005 8:07:47 AM PDT by Boundless (97.4297% of FR readers agree with this post, based on a recent survey.)
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BS Poll


22 posted on 09/11/2005 8:08:30 AM PDT by Gimme
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Newsweek undersamples Republicans. 29% is 8 points lower than how many Republicans voted in 2004.

I am sure the poll is biased, but there is a cautionary note.

The bias would be the difference between the fraction of Republicans sampled and the fraction of Republicans in the general electorate. I don't know that number. However, if, hypothetically, only 29% of all registered voters were Republicans, then the poll would not be biased.

I did not quite understand your quote that I reference above. Does it mean that the number of republicans in the general electorate is 37%, and the poll is 8% undersampled?

23 posted on 09/11/2005 8:09:39 AM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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Hey, did these "pollsters" learn the trade from zogby???


30 posted on 09/11/2005 8:25:50 AM PDT by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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Our side always complains about the polls. I have an idea;

How about we start to put out the word that Republicans are refusing to cooperate with the pollsters so the polls are useless. This will harm the ability of the MSM and left to use polls to further their story.

Also, it is probably true since the reason the exit polls were so off was that Bush supporters refused to be interviewed by the exit poll folks.


35 posted on 09/11/2005 8:41:05 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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Most of us know or at least suspect that this is going on and has been going on for years or decades or always, but the point is that we know it and the sheep believe it or don't question it. I ask you, where are the Republican leaders and their outrage? I don't see 'em, I don't hear 'em - either they are too stupid to comprehend it or they don't care, and that just may be closer to the truth. I am beginining to despise the Republicans more than I hate the homo, drug ingesting liberal left. At least they have the balls to fight while the 'Pubs' retaliate with references to 'our misguided colleagues across the aisle'. Where the hell are all the men in this gutless society?


36 posted on 09/11/2005 8:48:05 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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This poll is taking freedom of speech into levels of fraud. Your protest is very accurate. 29% polled by Newsweek were Republicans while in fact 37% of voters are Republican. They also polled a slight higher number of Democrats and independents when there are really only 30% and 31%.

A great strategy here would be to write Newsweek's sponsors and threaten to boycott their products if Newsweek does not right this wrong.


42 posted on 09/11/2005 9:03:10 AM PDT by jscottdavis_for_48th_district (J. Scott Davis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jscottdavisfanclub ...... Onward To Hollywood)
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I'm 43, I've been voting since 1980, I have a listed telephone number and I've never been called by a pollster, not once.


48 posted on 09/11/2005 9:11:46 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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Or it might be that only 29% are willing to admit they are Republicans. 5 years of failed immigration policy, etc., takes its toll.


63 posted on 09/11/2005 9:32:01 AM PDT by Brilliant
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11% more Dems than Repubs should get you the results your looking for. You can bet it will be quoted all week long. Thanks.

Pray for W, NO, MS and Our Freedom Fighters

68 posted on 09/11/2005 9:47:11 AM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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Hi, DrDeb. Pinging you FYI to this thread about a warped Newsweek poll that way oversampled Dems.


71 posted on 09/11/2005 9:53:36 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NOTE TO MSM: Each state is sovereign over its own territory. GWB is NOT king of the U.S.)
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