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The Chicago Tribune won't allow the full article to be copied, so it's been ruthlessly chopped up to fit our excerpting requirements. It's worth reading the whole thing here.
1 posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 09/13/2005 4:16:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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Evolution says we are all decedents of a rock that was created from some dust that formed from an explosion of nothing.

Creation says we are all made in the image of God and that He created us.

Hmm, from a rock or by and in the image of God. As for me, I’ll stay with God being my great, great grandpaw 200 times removed.

6 posted on 09/13/2005 4:28:03 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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Evolution and religion have nothing to do with one another. Man is the only animal that needs "religion". He had it long before the "Christian" era. Worshiping the moon, sun, rocks, alligators, bulls etc. no end. He used "witch doctors" to deal with the unknown. Religion will aways be with man. The current debate , lie global warming is a colossal fraud.


16 posted on 09/13/2005 4:40:48 AM PDT by Waco
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From his university days Darwin would have been familiar with the case for intelligent design. In 1802, nearly 30 years before the Beagle set sail, William Paley, the reigning theologian of his time, published "Natural Theology" in which he laid out his "Argument from Design."

Raymond Sebond used the same argument (and title!) in the 15th century.

20 posted on 09/13/2005 4:46:10 AM PDT by Physicist
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Can't put words into Darwin's mouth until he has used an electron microscope to view a cell, or learned about the most important source of biological *information* to humankind: DNA.

Wonder what he would have thought of dinoflagellum...

28 posted on 09/13/2005 4:54:51 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (God is my Fulcrum; prayer is my lever -- Saint Therese of Lisieux)
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A whole ne line of scientific thought is emerging.

The argument from how I want things to be.

Me. Me Me. I want. I want. I want.


62 posted on 09/13/2005 5:53:36 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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Article was snipped and unfortunately this nice little paragraph was left out:

Shy and reclusive, Darwin disliked argument. He also was plagued by poor health. In particular, he suffered from terrible flatulence that made him reluctant to venture out in public.

And this one:

At the house in Downe where he spent the last 40 years of his life, he rigged up a system of mirrors so he could peek out the window of his study and see who was at the front door. Unwanted visitors were sent away.


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66 posted on 09/13/2005 6:00:51 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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bump


100 posted on 09/13/2005 6:47:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you will lie against you.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Evolution -> miracle of chance
ID -> miracle of creation

either way you have a miracle.


116 posted on 09/13/2005 7:06:44 AM PDT by Grig
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To: PatrickHenry

I have always believed that evolution is an invention to escape the fact that there is a God greater than us. Period.


217 posted on 09/13/2005 9:06:47 AM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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Rev William Paley's watch was about a foot across and weighed ten pounds, but without ID, science would be next to impossible. Strange to think of it, but in an evolving universe the laws of physics would be changing in unpredictable ways.


220 posted on 09/13/2005 9:13:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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500


501 posted on 09/13/2005 4:42:50 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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Creationist remind me of Democrazies. Trial and error made you what you are and the truth is --- out there!
663 posted on 09/14/2005 12:12:26 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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Stirring the pot, I see, PH, with an article which essentially says nothing.


798 posted on 09/14/2005 6:22:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: PatrickHenry

This cultural war debate has been going on since the late Roman (Byzantine) era.. witness the following:

"Knowing Pythagoras and Aristotle and Plato a person can grasp the truth".

---Barlaam the Calabrian

VS


"...a classical education helps the natural knowledge of man about created things, but it can never become itself intellectual knowledge, unless it joins with faith and the Agape of God and, even more, unless it regenerates itself from this Agape and from the Grace that emanates from this Agape, and unless it becomes different from what it was before; that is new, Godlike, pure, peaceful, tolerant, amenable, full of words that enlighten those that listen to them and bearing good fruit, knowledge which is also called the wisdom of God..."
---St. Gregory Palamas

Fortunately back then Barlaam and his infectious ideology lost the battle then and the secularists will lose again.

http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/Gregory_Palamas


1,380 posted on 09/16/2005 12:59:02 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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