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Forbes targets immigrants in gangs (MS-13 in Va.)
The Washington Times ^ | 9-15-05 | Gary Emerling

Posted on 09/15/2005 11:55:01 AM PDT by JZelle

U.S. Rep. J. Randy Forbes said gang-related violence, such as the 2002 rapes of two deaf teenagers by MS-13 members, has spurred him to combat such activity with legislation that would crack down on immigrants involved in criminal gangs. "We heard of kids coming home from school and they can't even go outside; they have to stay hunkered down because of the gang activity out there," the Virginia Republican said. "As we saw that we realized we had to do something or it was going to be totally out of control." Mr. Forbes has introduced a bill that would allow the government to deport aliens and immigrants who are not permanent residents of the United States and belong to criminal gangs. He said hearing about the gang-rape of the two girls -- one of whom was wheelchair-bound and suffering from cerebral palsy -- in a Boston park by up to six youths three years ago pushed him to introduce the legislation. "The country's thrust up to this point in fighting gang activity is wait until they kill somebody, hurt somebody or rape somebody and then go after them," he said. "We just don't find that" working.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; gangs; illegalalien; immigrantlist; ms13; randyforbes; rape; virginia
Just how many laws do illegals get to break before they're actually arrested and deported.
1 posted on 09/15/2005 11:55:07 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/15/2005 11:57:40 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: JZelle

Just how many laws do illegals get to break before they're actually arrested and deported.
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And, how many laws do they have to break before we KEEP THEM OUT!!?? The insanity continues. And how many laws does Washington have to encourage illegals to break, before we deport Washington ???


3 posted on 09/15/2005 11:58:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: JZelle

How much do 10000 border patrol agents costs (include training, healthcare, equipment, etc) vs a Wall? A wall would pay for itself the first year it was built. Hell if we can give NO 100Billion+ dollars to rebuild that scum hole then why cant we defend the nation with a wall.


4 posted on 09/15/2005 12:00:11 PM PDT by sasafras (Want to get rid of illegals then take away all the benefits and penalize employers who hire illegals)
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To: JZelle

The democrats are planning on doing nothing about gangs or immigration in NOVA.


5 posted on 09/15/2005 12:00:19 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: JZelle
These MS-13 members aren't citizens, nor are they immigrants, nor are they mere illegal aliens. They are enemy combatants, and should be dealt with by the same forces who would respond if a large team of well-armed North Korean commandos parachuted onto US soil.
6 posted on 09/15/2005 12:01:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: JZelle

bttt


7 posted on 09/15/2005 12:02:17 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I knew there was a reason I had an urge to change my tagline.


8 posted on 09/15/2005 12:03:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Weve lost this country. Im exhausted. Let me know when its time to go door to door.


9 posted on 09/15/2005 12:06:30 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: JZelle

I notice that when there were innocent law abiding gun owners in New Orleans to have their arms conficated by well equipped jackbooted thugs, the govn't was Johnny-on-the-spot. When it comes to MS-13 who are making our lives miserable this very moment, the govn't does nothing but pass more laws.


10 posted on 09/15/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: JZelle

The way to combat the MS-13 is to kill them all.


11 posted on 09/15/2005 12:10:09 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: EagleUSA

If we could just get them to only Rape the Liberal women!


12 posted on 09/15/2005 12:12:45 PM PDT by jrd
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To: JZelle
U.S. Rep. J. Randy Forbes said gang-related violence, such as the 2002 rapes of two deaf teenagers by MS-13 members, has spurred him to combat such activity with legislation

Wouldn't a rope do a better job than still more paper?

13 posted on 09/15/2005 12:15:07 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: JZelle

gangbangers = domestic terrorists.


14 posted on 09/15/2005 12:17:01 PM PDT by wolicy_ponk (If we're not the mainstream, how come we nearly control all three branches of Government?)
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To: Happy2BMe

Ping


15 posted on 09/15/2005 12:18:13 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm expecting that some people who are die-hards will die hard.'' -NOLA parish president)
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To: jrd

"If we could just get them to only Rape the Liberal women!"

I don't think the MS-13 is that desparate :P


16 posted on 09/15/2005 12:19:47 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Born Conservative

ICE ARRESTS 14 MEMBERS & ASSOCIATES OF MS-13 GANG IN NEW JERSEY ON DRUG CONSPIRACY

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America's Most Dangerous Gang - MS13 - Violent, Vicious, and Spreading Fast.

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The Most Dangerous Gang in America

ALEXANDRIA - It took a violent machete attack and a brazen daylight shooting for the Mara Salvatrucha street gang to command the kind of attention police believe it deserved as it grew in Northern Virginia for more than a decade.

In May 2004, a 16-year-old boy in Fairfax County had several fingers chopped off in an attack by a machete-wielding assailant. A week later, a 17-year-old youth was shot dead in Herndon by an assailant on a bicycle.

Police blamed both attacks on Mara Salvatrucha, the Latino street gang known as MS-13 that has grown from its beginnings in the barrios of Los Angeles into what is considered the fastest-growing and most dangerous gang in the country, its menacing presence now detected in more than 30 states.


17 posted on 09/15/2005 12:30:11 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That would be us.......


18 posted on 09/15/2005 12:33:43 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: JZelle
Just how many laws do illegals get to break before they're actually arrested and deported.

I get the impression that this law is directed at those who have legal status. Forbes wants to chuck them out just for being in a criminal street gang, something that isn't permitted by present law, I gather. It's better than nothing, I suppose, but we aren't even making much of an effort to find and toss out the illegally-present gang members. If we aren't bothering to go after the low-hanging fruit like those guys, what's the chances that we'll see much enforcement of this measure? I'm guessing that nobody's going to go out actively looking, they'll just use Forbe's law to get rid of them when they're picked up on suspicion of something. That's assuming this law is even enacted, which is a BIG 'if'.

19 posted on 09/15/2005 1:06:44 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: JZelle

Here's a novel idea - instead of wasting more time and tax dollars, how about enforcing current laws against illegals?


20 posted on 09/15/2005 1:46:02 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: nicmarlo; Happy2BMe

Nic - Ping to Post 17 in case you haven't seen it.


21 posted on 09/15/2005 3:06:43 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: JZelle

They need to find a way to bypass the immigration judicial farce that allows infinite appeals.


22 posted on 09/15/2005 4:39:40 PM PDT by junta (Invade Mexico, aggressively neutralize its corrupt leadership and introduce civilization.)
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To: Borax Queen

how lovely.


23 posted on 09/15/2005 4:42:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: JZelle

My wife went to a community meeting last night were the county police officer said the local gangs aren't all that dangerous except to other gangs. He made is sound like the local liberal media has blown things out of proportion. If our local left wing apologist media is reporting it then it must be to the point even they can't avoid it. She said the officer had his spin down pat.

I guess laws don't matter in the post modern world?


24 posted on 09/15/2005 4:49:40 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: El Gato
Wouldn't a rope do a better job than still more paper?

Both are too slow.

25 posted on 09/16/2005 5:35:25 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


26 posted on 09/16/2005 7:30:28 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
They are enemy combatants, and should be dealt with by the same forces who would respond if a large team of well-armed North Korean commandos parachuted onto US soil.

Absolutely right! The only thing these savages understand is violence. The question remains: WHY is this government allowing unlimited illegal immigration into America??

27 posted on 09/16/2005 8:18:27 PM PDT by janetgreen
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