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EJ Dionne: "The Bush Era is Over"...Buchanan: "The Dems are pathetic (paraphrasing)"
Hardball ^ | 9/15/05 | Hardball/Chris Matthews

Posted on 09/15/2005 2:59:37 PM PDT by Embraer2004

EJ DIonne was pontificating that Bush's Presidency and era is over. He seemed thrilled..however, Chrissy Matthews said: "Who can take the bullhorn away from Bush?" Dionne said: The bullhorn is in the water". Pat Buchanan was watching these two with disgust and proclaimed: "Who do the Democrats have? Hillary, Kerry? Pleeeasseee...When I was with Reagan during the Iran-Contra Scandal, we took a beating for 6 months and at the end of Reagan's Presidency he had a 70% approval rating. Bush is still the President, don't forget that, he can use the military, Congress, he can make many decisions, he still has all the power" EJ DIonne looked sad and said that Iraq is going wrong, blah blah bkla. Pat Buchanan then explained that the War is important and crucial, Bush cannot pull out" Chrissy Matthews was hyperventilating and EJ DIoone continued to talk unintelligible rubbish as usual. I cannot stand EJ DIonne, what a loser


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KEYWORDS: barkingmoonbats; ejdionne; moonbats; news; patbuchanan; patheticdems; wishfulthinking
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1 posted on 09/15/2005 2:59:42 PM PDT by Embraer2004
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To: Embraer2004

I don't know which is scarier-the thought of the Dems retaking the White House in 2008 or Pat Buchanan actually making sense for once.


2 posted on 09/15/2005 3:01:03 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Embraer2004

that's right and NO will be back on its feet within a year, probably less, and who'll have been responsible?


3 posted on 09/15/2005 3:01:46 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I support the firemen, but not their cause.)
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To: Embraer2004
Bush is still the President, don't forget that,

This is the WIND beneath My Wings.

4 posted on 09/15/2005 3:02:50 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush)
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To: Embraer2004

A soldier serving in Iraq, and home on leave, called Hannity today and said he hardly recognizes the country he left with all the vitriol over this storm. Said he is proud of what he's doing in Iraq, he VOLUNTEERED for that duty, and they ARE making a difference over there... Sean had him hold and wants to invite him to come to the show next week (H&C show)..


5 posted on 09/15/2005 3:03:32 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Embraer2004

. . . He Didn't Get

By E. J. Dionne Jr.

Friday, November 5, 2004; Page A25


Don't mourn. Organize.

Okay, we can mourn a little first. The punch in the stomach that really got blue Americans singing the blues was George W. Bush's popular vote lead of more than 3.5 million.

Let's be honest: We are aghast at the success of a campaign based on vicious personal attacks, the exploitation of strong religious feelings and an effort to create the appearance of strong leadership that would do Hollywood proud. We are alarmed that so many of our fellow citizens could look the other way and not hold Bush accountable for utter incompetence in Iraq and for untruths spoken in defense of the war. We are amazed that a majority was not concerned about heaping a huge debt burden on our children just to give large tax breaks to the rich.

And we are disgusted that an effort consciously designed to divide the country did exactly that -- and won. With all his failures, Bush could not count on a whole lot more than 51 percent. Karl Rove and company calculated perfectly, organized painstakingly, greatly increased conservative turnout and produced a country divided just their way.

The opposition should not crawl into a hole or be silent about these things. A decent respect for the outcome of an election never requires free citizens to cower before a temporarily dominant majority. There is, on the contrary, an obligation to stay engaged in a battle that, as John Edwards says, rages on.

Begin with the facts: A 51-48 percent victory is not a mandate. Even Democrats have talked about their party's being confined to an "enclave." Enclave? Blue America includes the entire Northeast, all of the West Coast but for Alaska and much of the upper Midwest.

If John Kerry had switched a point and a half in the popular vote and roughly 70,000 votes in Ohio, we'd be talking about the Republican "enclave." Rove's strategy has largely confined the GOP to the South and the Mountain West, rural America and the outer suburbs. Two nearly equal sides are engaged today, as they were on Tuesday, in a long-term struggle to make inroads into the other's patch.

As someone who has been arguing for years that liberals should show more respect for people of faith, I'm happy that more Democrats are now saying the same. But the post-election talk is much too facile. Most of the voters who cast ballots for Bush because of abortion, stem cell research or gay marriage won't suddenly switch sides because Democratic candidates pepper their speeches with prayers and a few more "God bless you's."

What's required is a sustained and intellectually serious effort by religious moderates and progressives to insist that social justice and inclusion are "moral values" and that war and peace are "life issues." As my wife and I prepared our three kids for school the day after the day after, we shared our outrage that we in Blue America are cast as opponents of "family values" simply because we don't buy the right wing's agenda. No political faction can be allowed to assert a monopoly on the family.

Bush will claim a "mandate" for a Social Security privatization plan whose costs he never discussed and for a "tax reform" proposal he never described. Radical efforts to destroy the achievements of progressive government should not be undertaken on the basis of a slim majority. The word "reform" should not be hijacked as a cover for whatever the president wants to do to favor the interests that support him. Democrats should never fear to negotiate, but history will damn those in their ranks who confuse negotiation with capitulation.

An administration given to hubris will have to be checked by institutions outside what is likely to be a compliant Congress. This is no time for the independent media to be intimidated by trumped-up charges of liberal bias. Moderate Republicans will have to find the courage to say publicly what many of them say privately about this administration's habit of overreach and the excesses of right-wing legislative leaders.

Kerry, in his poignant concession speech, said we should now be united. We are united against terrorists, in support of our troops and in the hope of a decent outcome in Iraq. But the burden for achieving national unity is on a president who could manage a narrow victory only by savagely trashing his opponent.

On Wednesday Bush told those who voted against him: "I will do all I can do to deserve your trust." Mr. President, I truly hope you realize how much work you have to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A26834-2004Nov4?language=printer


6 posted on 09/15/2005 3:04:18 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Embraer2004

Pat puts American interests first. The only folks who smear Pat as soon as they see his name are those who don't put American interests first.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 3:04:51 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Embraer2004

The Bush era might be in its second half, but JEB has another 8 years to go starting in 2009.


8 posted on 09/15/2005 3:07:53 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

Dionnne = Bush hating nut = he's been saying claptrap like this since Bush was elected in 2000.

You cannot change the spots on a leopard.


9 posted on 09/15/2005 3:09:04 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: putupjob

Mathews is a goner. Stay tuned.


10 posted on 09/15/2005 3:11:53 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: new yorker 77
Begin with the facts: A 51-48 percent victory is not a mandate.

Any victory by a Republican is not a mandate, but a Democrat who wins with less than 50% of the vote (due to a 3rd party candidate) has a mandate. Right.

Blue America includes the entire Northeast, all of the West Coast but for Alaska and much of the upper Midwest.

See map for clarity.


11 posted on 09/15/2005 3:18:37 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Disambiguator
Democrat who wins with less than 50% of the vote

IIRC the Clinton never got more than 46% of the vote.......

12 posted on 09/15/2005 3:26:43 PM PDT by federal
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To: Embraer2004
I guess the Pat Buchanon that Conservatives/Republicans once proudly associated with just re-emerged briefly in the segment. Too bad this Pat is absent too often due to certain prejudices.

"Who do the Democrats have? Hillary, Kerry? Pleeeasseee...When I was with Reagan during the Iran-Contra Scandal, we took a beating for 6 months and at the end of Reagan's Presidency he had a 70% approval rating. Bush is still the President, don't forget that, he can use the military, Congress, he can make many decisions, he still has all the power"

Never good to interject a dose of reality to a Liberal.

I think I've just understood what is with the Libs. Just as with 9-11, Nov. 5, 2004 never happened. Just as it's still 9-10, it's still Nov. 3, 2004 in their minds.

So they get all excited, thinking Yay! We finally got him! he's gone! Party time! Then they are forced to confront the President is still President until 2009. This is why they are fixated on polls. They still think it's the day before the election. They are stalled in time incapable of moving beyond that moment. It's as though they were traumatized and unable to recall the painful memory of that day, so they've blocked it.

13 posted on 09/15/2005 3:27:41 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Embraer2004
The barking moonbats have gone from insisting that impeachment is around the corner because of(insert latest happening here) to happily proclaiming the end is here. Hate is a terrible thing to base your life on.
14 posted on 09/15/2005 3:29:07 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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We shared our outrage that we in Blue America are cast as opponents of "family values" simply because we don't buy the right wing's agenda.

"I'm Rick James, bitch!"

15 posted on 09/15/2005 3:31:49 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (What a picture -- the faggy Dionne kvetching to his wife about the big mean Pubbies.)
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To: Soul Seeker
I think I've just understood what is with the Libs. Just as with 9-11, Nov. 5, 2004 never happened. Just as it's still 9-10, it's still Nov. 3, 2004 in their minds.

More like Nov. 3 1972...

16 posted on 09/15/2005 3:32:39 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: samadams2000

I certainly hope so. It seems that the only qualification for television journalism is that you must have once been a Democrat politico.


17 posted on 09/15/2005 3:36:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: samadams2000

Is D-day still tomorrow?


18 posted on 09/15/2005 3:36:56 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Never Forget)
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To: ex-snook
The only folks who smear Pat as soon as they see his name are those who don't put American interests first.

Well said.

19 posted on 09/15/2005 3:46:11 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: JLS

"JEB has another 8 years to go starting in 2009."

Hehehe. Wouldn't the DUmmies just go NUTS?


20 posted on 09/15/2005 4:11:39 PM PDT by hsalaw
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