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Handbook I smuggled out of an Islamic convention
UAC undercover ;) ^ | CAIR

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:11 PM PDT by JesseP

This past weekend I did some personal undercover work at a local CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) fundraiser. I made off with a pocket handbook containing some deeply disturbing instructions to their members. I would like everyone to read it. It will only be available at this link until the end of the week so I suggest downloading it and distributing it to all who are concerned:
http://www.unitedamericancommittee.org/cairguide.gif

-JP
United American Committee
http://www.UnitedAmericanCommittee.org
info@unitedamericancommittee.org


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1 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:12 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

keep in mind this is the leading Islamic organization in America


2 posted on 09/19/2005 4:40:19 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

Loyalty oaths followed by helicopter-sand dune- drop deportation.


3 posted on 09/19/2005 4:41:23 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: JesseP

Why not provide us with an excerpt?


4 posted on 09/19/2005 4:41:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: JesseP

Okay, I'm game... what is "deeply disturbing"?


5 posted on 09/19/2005 4:41:35 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: JesseP

Outstanding detective work. CAIR is pure evil with glossy PR and $5000 silk suit spokemen.


6 posted on 09/19/2005 4:41:48 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: JesseP

I can't say that I find your first link particularly sinister. What should we do with that info, in your opinion?


7 posted on 09/19/2005 4:42:58 PM PDT by Clara Lou (W00t! IBTZ ! FP! w00t!)
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To: JesseP

I'm interested in what they are saying but I can not read your link.


8 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:12 PM PDT by mware (Keeper of the I's)
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To: JesseP

OK, I read it. What do you consider the "deeply disturbing" parts?


9 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:39 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: JesseP

It's kinda hard to read, isn't it?


10 posted on 09/19/2005 4:44:11 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: JesseP

someone with computer skills will have to fix this GIF for the rest of us.


11 posted on 09/19/2005 4:44:18 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Conceal Carry)
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To: TWohlford; JesseP

No kidding. I don't see anything notably subversive about that pamphlet, either.


12 posted on 09/19/2005 4:44:44 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: JesseP

Is there something in the micro-text offensive?

Your Rights as an Employee
Your Rights as a Student
What to do if the FBI contacts you
Your rights on an airline

Each of these are advice pertant to everyone. "Register and Vote" was one of the few items under "Get Involved Locally". This is advice that is good for everyone, Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan and yes, Islamic too.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 4:44:57 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: mware

If you click on the text it should become magnified.


14 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:20 PM PDT by Clara Lou (W00t! IBTZ ! FP! w00t!)
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To: JesseP

Gee, it sounds just like the advice I give 2nd Amendment activists.


15 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:36 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: JesseP

The first link is unreadable and the second just talks about your organization....


I am interested in the subject though.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:48 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: Clara Lou

Thanks Clara


17 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:53 PM PDT by mware (Keeper of the I's)
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To: JesseP
Frankly, you could substitute Republic Conservative for Muslim in that handbook and it would be OK. I didn't see anything in there that would not make sense for any religious group.

Where is the part about killing infidels?
18 posted on 09/19/2005 4:46:48 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

It says things on the order of "You do not have to talk to the FBI. You have no obligation to talk to the FBI, even if you are not a citizen. Never meet with them or answer any questions"


19 posted on 09/19/2005 4:46:56 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

Maybe my monitor is just better than all of yours ;) but it reads perfectly fine here


20 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:13 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: AdamSelene235

"Gee, it sounds just like the advice I give 2nd Amendment activists."

And it pretty much looks like advice I've seen given to pro-life protesters. I remember the same kinda things coming from my local Moral Majority chapter as well back in the 80's.


21 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:31 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: JesseP

Well I happen to find "Put together a Ramadan or Hajj display at a local school or library." offensive, the ACLU would back that but not if a Christian tried something similar


22 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:33 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

Yeah, that goes for any American citizen of any religion, too.


23 posted on 09/19/2005 4:50:00 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JesseP

Point # 1. Our goal is the unity of all Americans, against the threats of Islamic extremism which face our nation and a goal of ensuring a secure future of America. We will accomplish our goals set forth through the following actions: Educate our society on the natures of our enemies. Inform the American people on issues which must be resolved. Influence and encourage the actions of the President and Congress to accomplish our goals.

Point # 2. Our goal is that freedom for all religious faiths continues, insofar as they do not endanger the American people, or the existence of democracy.

Point # 6. Our nation's security shall come first and foremost. The United American Committee is dedicated to protecting the American people, and allowing them to live safe and comfortable lives, without the threats of Islamic extremism and terrorist activities. We feel a key to accomplishing this is by maintaining a secure border. Our goal is an increase in border security along both our northern and southern borders, as well as an increase in funding to Coast Guard and Immigration agencies so that they may work efficiently and that the American people may live in safety.

Point # 8. Our goal is for America to cease dependency on imported oil from countries tied to Islamic extremism..."

There's an excerpt from link #2, sounds ok to me.......


24 posted on 09/19/2005 4:50:01 PM PDT by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: JesseP

Okay, magnified and read.

Other than the fact that these folks will (Should) have problems with church and state issues trying to place their books and religious symbols in public schools, I am not seeing a problem here....what am I missing?


25 posted on 09/19/2005 4:50:17 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: JesseP

26 posted on 09/19/2005 4:50:57 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: JesseP

Bump for truth!


27 posted on 09/19/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: JesseP

Thanks for posting. ALways good to info. on CAIR.


28 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:09 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Clara Lou

all together now, This land is your land this land is my land from the......innocent


29 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:12 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: JesseP

"Well I happen to find "Put together a Ramadan or Hajj display at a local school or library." offensive, the ACLU would back that but not if a Christian tried something similar"

Jeez...

Jesse's upset at a Ramadan display, because no Christian display is allowed.

And that's Jesse finds it "distrubing"???? No mention of suicide bombings, or calling for the establishment of an Islamic state, or anything like that?

Jesse, you gotta get out more!


30 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:49 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: JesseP
It says things on the order of "You do not have to talk to the FBI. You have no obligation to talk to the FBI, even if you are not a citizen. Never meet with them or answer any questions"

and they would be correct ... like it or not, they are no more obligated to talk to the FBI without appropriate due process and legal protection than any other indnvidual or group in this country.

31 posted on 09/19/2005 4:52:57 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: JesseP

My favorite sections are of course techniques for disrupting air traffic security and sabotaging FBI investigations.


32 posted on 09/19/2005 4:53:30 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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indeed, I love the noncooperation issues, so if they hear of something terrorible that a fellow Muslim is plotting what then?


33 posted on 09/19/2005 4:55:09 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

Okay, haven't read it all yet. But for those wondering what's so disturbing about it, I have found two things already that might disturb some folks: First, putting together a Hajj display for a school or library (what happened to separation of church and state). Second, writing letters to the editor under false pretenses; namely, pretending that you represent a large organization, when you do not. And that's just for starters. Haven't got to the throat slitting yet. :-)


34 posted on 09/19/2005 4:56:08 PM PDT by LibWhacker ("The only mistake we made with Katrina was not overriding the local government." -Karl Rove)
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To: TWohlford

I find far more disturbing than just that, it teaches them to never cooperate in efforts to root out terrorism, complete noncooperation with law enforcement


35 posted on 09/19/2005 4:56:53 PM PDT by JesseP
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To: JesseP

I believe you are reaching here.


36 posted on 09/19/2005 4:56:58 PM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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complete noncooperation with law enforcement

Fine American tradition.

37 posted on 09/19/2005 4:59:25 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: stubernx98

Probably in the Arabic version or Urdu version of the pamphlet. ;-)


38 posted on 09/19/2005 5:00:06 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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"I find far more disturbing than just that, it teaches them to never cooperate in efforts to root out terrorism, complete noncooperation with law enforcement"

So all those pinko commie sand flea arab muslims are just covering for the next "big one" when they invoke their 5th Amendment rights?

I mean, you have nothing to hide, right? You'd like to talk to the FBI for a few days about your friends and relatives, and search your house from crawl space to attic? If you object then you certainly are hiding something reallly big, right?

Strangely, I'm betting you're the kind of person who objects to people knowing your Social Security number.


39 posted on 09/19/2005 5:00:30 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: JesseP

All I see is basic rights info that could apply to ANY body/group. Whats disturbing?


40 posted on 09/19/2005 5:00:55 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: JesseP

I read it and I can't say I saw anything really that bad. Compared to other things CAIR has done I find this relatively benign.


41 posted on 09/19/2005 5:01:12 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: BurrOh

ping for later


42 posted on 09/19/2005 5:01:14 PM PDT by BurrOh (Kerry, honored member of War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City)
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To: LibWhacker

Actually, I think the intention of that "letter to the editor" section was to encourage actually forming an organization to deal with an issue, not just making up the name of one and pretending to be its spokesperson. That's what I read from it, anyway.


43 posted on 09/19/2005 5:02:29 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: JesseP

These are the sort of instructions that every Freeper should read and emulate. There is nothing even remotely sinister about that document.


44 posted on 09/19/2005 5:02:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: JesseP

I can't find even one disturbing thing in this pamphlet. It is encouraging law-abiding behavior. I'm sure that it was not necessary to "smuggle" it out of the meeting.


45 posted on 09/19/2005 5:02:41 PM PDT by wideminded
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You forgot to say that they are encouraged not to speak to the FBI without an attorney present. How is that disturbing?


46 posted on 09/19/2005 5:03:13 PM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: TWohlford

My thoughts exactly, I failed to see any information in there that I wouldn't recommend to any citizen of any religion.


47 posted on 09/19/2005 5:04:39 PM PDT by Join Or Die
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To: JesseP

I don't get it either. it seems just fine to me.


48 posted on 09/19/2005 5:07:23 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: wildcatf4f3

You make no sense. Please translate.


49 posted on 09/19/2005 5:07:25 PM PDT by Clara Lou (W00t! IBTZ ! FP! w00t!)
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To: JesseP
I can't say that I find anything particularly sinister in what I saw. Although I do find it interesting that it's in english.

Remember how them minions of Mad Mo (piss be upon his head) like to say one thing to the world in english, and then turn around and tell their people something completely different in arabic, farsi, or whatever...

Now if you had found an arabic pamplet that we could have translated.....

50 posted on 09/19/2005 5:07:58 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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