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Democrats Face Pressures on Roberts Issue
ap on Yahoo ^ | 9/19/05 | David Espo - ap

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats face conflicting pressures as John Roberts' nomination as chief justice advances, prodded by liberal groups to oppose the appointment yet considering whether a vote in favor might temper President Bush's choice for a second Supreme Court vacancy.

"In three days of testimony, Judge Roberts gave no reason for optimism that he would vote to uphold a woman's right to choose," the National Women's Law Center said in a memo circulated Monday, part of a sustained effort by liberal groups to maximize Democratic opposition to the nomination.

"There's been extensive outreach to senators and their staffs by numerous people urging them to vote no on the nomination," added Nan Aron, who heads the Alliance for Justice, another organization that spent the weekend trying to line up "no" votes.

The Senate Judiciary Committee is to vote on Roberts on Thursday, and the decisions made by the panel's eight Democrats — including two members of the party's leadership — will provide the first indication of whether the 50-year-old appeals court judge and former Reagan administration lawyer can command significant bipartisan support.

Whatever Democrats decide, Roberts' confirmation to succeed the late Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist is all but secured, given widespread, possibly unanimous support among the Senate's 55 Republicans.

Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, who presided over confirmation hearings as chairman of the Judiciary Committee, underscored the depth of the GOP support during the day when he formally announced his plans to support the nominee. "Most importantly, Judge Roberts' answers demonstrated that he would take a fair, non-ideological approach to the law," said Specter.

A supporter of abortion rights, Specter also said he came away from the hearings without a clear indication of whether Roberts would vote to sustain or overturn the 1973 landmark high court ruling that established a woman's right to end her pregnancy. "Notwithstanding his answers and my efforts to glean some realistic expectation from his words and body language, candidly it is not possible to predict or have a solid expectation of what Judge Roberts would do," he said.

Thus far, all 44 Senate Democrats have remained publicly neutral on the nomination, acceding to the request of the party's leader, Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, to avoid commitments until hearings were completed.

Apart from pressure from traditional allies, several Democrats have noted that Roberts possesses undeniable legal skills.

Additionally, with Bush beginning to consult with Congress on a replacement for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, there are other factors.

One Democrat who is close to the Judiciary Committee said the issue broke down this way: If the nominee to replace O'Connor is going to be more conservative than Roberts, and more controversial, would it be better to have seven or eight Democratic votes in favor of Roberts or to have 30 or 35?

A second Democrat said part of the calculation reflected the view of some senators that Bush may shrink from confrontation when he fills the second vacancy, at a time when public support for the war in Iraq is dwindling and his overall public approval is at the lowest point of his presidency.

Yet a third said some Democratic senators argue that they will be in a better political position to oppose a second, more conservative nominee if they have voted for Roberts.

These Democrats spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss the private debate.

One Democratic strategist with long experience in senatorial campaigns dismissed such claims.

"Never once have Democrats benefited from attempts at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation," said Jim Jordan, former executive director of the party's senatorial committee. "To the contrary, Bush and his team seem to view political compromise as weakness, and they punish it rather than reward or reciprocate it."

Despite the pressure from groups such as the NLWC, the Alliance for Justice, People For the American Way and the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, other traditionally Democratic groups have been relatively quiet about Roberts. Neither the AFL-CIO nor the nation's trial lawyers have played significant roles in the confirmation process.

Additionally, Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., who is in charge of the party's senatorial campaign committee, told reporters last week he does not believe the nomination will emerge as one of the top four or five issues in the 2006 midterm elections. Schumer is also a member of the Judiciary Committee.


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1 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

lol.. It don't matter, Ds,, yur skrewed either way. :)


2 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

and ya have no one to blame but yourselves. teeheehee


3 posted on 09/19/2005 4:50:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Schumer is also a member of the Judiciary Committee.
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A short statement that shows a HUGE PROBLEM in the Congress...


4 posted on 09/19/2005 4:54:33 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge
Basically, if too many vote against Roberts, then whatever they do on the next one will look partisan (because it will be, but they don't want it to *look* that way).

If they vote for him because he'll pass anyway, that will give them (in their own minds) a little more lattitude.

5 posted on 09/19/2005 5:04:12 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Never once have Democrats benefited from attempts at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation," said Jim Jordan, former executive director of the party's senatorial committee. "To the contrary, Bush and his team seem to view political compromise as weakness, and they punish it rather than reward or reciprocate it."

This is remarkable. It clearly explains the motivation for Democrat's unwillingness to be reasonable, to compromise and to be accomodating.

It is manifestly obvious and easily documentable, however, that President Bush has been accomodating, reasonable and willing to compromise with the Senate Democrats.

What are we to make of this?

A possible explanation is that influential leaders of the Democrat party are insane. Paranoid, perhaps?

A likely interpretation is that Bush is conservative. Liberals expect that compromise, accomodation and reason equate with liberal sentiments. His persistent conservatism marks Bush as uncompromising, unaccomodating and unreasonable.

There you have it, fellow Freepers. Until conservatives give up their delusions and accept a liberal world view they will never be acceptable to the ideologues who control the Democrat party.

6 posted on 09/19/2005 5:13:57 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Straight out of Stalin's playbook. It's the big lie. It's comical. If you listen to the democrats, your view will always be correct if you think the exact opposite.

I voted for McGovern and Carter the first time he ran. I left the democratic party when I started to have to lie to defend my positions.

These people are nothing but lying communists.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 5:18:30 PM PDT by athanellen
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To: NormsRevenge

The dimocrats are smarter than their special interest groups. They know that if they go party-line (or anything close to it) against a guy as clearly, completely, and competently qualified as Roberts, that the'll never be listened to again. Bush will be able to appoint any judge, including one that's as far right-wing as the moonbats claim Roberts to be, and nobody will listen to them when they object.


8 posted on 09/19/2005 5:18:42 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (Saddam Hussein harbored and paid terrorists. Any questions?)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Never once have Democrats benefited from attempts at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation," said Jim Jordan, former executive director of the party's senatorial committee.

Oh come on, Jimmy; get real. I can't think of even ONE "attempt at reasonableness and compromise and accommodation" from these bozo dems.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 5:20:16 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee, what about voting for or against the candidate based on ability to fullfil the job.

Democrats make a Wellstone Memorial over every issue no matter how big or how small.


10 posted on 09/19/2005 5:30:25 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: Amos the Prophet

Dems truly live in a parrallel universe where black is white and white is black. Maybe that is because the MSM is always on their side and always against Conservatives. That may help explain their skewed perceptions of reality. That, and their mistaken underlying assumptions about man's nature and the way the world works.


11 posted on 09/19/2005 5:34:15 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: NormsRevenge
The abortion Nazis, the race hustlers and poverty pimps and the envirofascists aren't going to let the "Democrats" off easy on this one.

I expect they'll make long speeches to try to create the impression that Roberts is really Adolf Hitler.

12 posted on 09/19/2005 6:26:47 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Amos the Prophet

Bush needs to go even more conservative with the second choice.

Just kick them right in the Jimmies and let em scream, and scream, and scream.

Bwahahahahahahaha


13 posted on 09/19/2005 8:50:22 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dems Platform: Kill Babies.....Kill more Babies.....Gay Marriage....Kill More Babies.....Kill MORE Babies....Gay Marriage.....Civil Rghts for Terrorists....Kill More babies.....Tax Payer Funded Lawyers for Foreign Terrorists.....Kill More Babies......Embryonic Stem Cell Research from the Babies we killed.....Gay Marriage.....Kill More Babies......Tax the Rich.....Kill more Babies.


14 posted on 09/19/2005 8:50:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

You Missed:

Never mention G__ __,- mock Christians, remove the
name of Christ from everything,kill more babies, raise
more taxes, repeat.


15 posted on 09/20/2005 6:07:35 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: ottersnot

Calling Miquel Estrada. Miquel Estrada to the green room please.


16 posted on 09/20/2005 6:53:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Ann Archy

I think you summed it up pretty well there...

I don't think there will be much effect of the "... pressures ..."

I'll be surprised if even a single D on the Judiciary Committee votes for Roberts.


17 posted on 09/20/2005 7:29:57 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: mj1234

You are right!


18 posted on 09/20/2005 11:13:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: EagleUSA

IMHO, Schumer is simply a MEMBER!


19 posted on 09/20/2005 11:14:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: NormsRevenge
Whatever Democrats decide, Roberts' confirmation to succeed the late Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist is all but secured, given widespread, possibly unanimous support among the Senate's 55 Republicans. -DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writer

This sentence struck me as strange. Is that the reason confirmation is secured, not because his qualifications are outstanding? Not because a naked party-line vote against him would be a travesty?

20 posted on 09/21/2005 7:21:14 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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