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Transcript of Able Danger Hearing Sept 21, 2005 -Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing
US Senate Committee on the Judiciary ^ | September 21, 2005 | US Senate

Posted on 09/21/2005 7:36:31 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Testimony of all people from today's hearing of the Senate Judiciaary Committee are located at this site:

DATE: September 21, 2005 TIME: 09:30 AM ROOM: 226 Dirksen OFFICIAL HEARING NOTICE / WITNESS LIST:

September 8, 2005

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING RESCHEDULED -- Wed., September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.

The hearing on “Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building has been rescheduled to take place on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.

By order of the Chairman

(Excerpt) Read more at judiciary.senate.gov ...


TOPICS: Announcements; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; 911commission; abledanger; atta; senatehearing; weldon
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1 posted on 09/21/2005 7:36:38 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

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2 posted on 09/21/2005 7:41:46 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: bobsunshine

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3 posted on 09/21/2005 7:41:48 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: bobsunshine

Does anybody know when it will be shown again if ever?


4 posted on 09/21/2005 7:48:11 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: bobsunshine; eyespysomething

Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 09/21/2005 7:52:49 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: bobsunshine
All of this is old news but I provide it for background.

DragonWare contained three parts:

Carnivore - A Windows NT/2000-based system that captures the information
Packeteer - No official information released, but presumably an application for reassembling packets into cohesive messages or Web pages
Coolminer - No official information released, but presumably an application for extrapolating and analyzing data found in the messages
As you can see, officials never released much information about the DragonWare Suite, nothing about Packeteer and Coolminer and very little detailed information about Carnivore. But we do know that Carnivore was basically a packet sniffer, a technology that is quite common and has been around for a while.

Echelon - This is a secret network rumored to be under development by the National Security Agency (NSA), supposedly designed to detect and capture packets crossing international borders that contain certain keywords, such as "bomb" or "assassination." There is no solid evidence to support the existence of Echelon. Many people confused this rumored system with the Carnivore system

I believe that there are National Security interests involved
with this Able Danger story that should prevent the details
from becoming public. We shouldn't want all of our surveillance
capabilities exposed on the floor of Congress. All that needs to
be said is, Clinton fiddled while OBL and his minions planned
for us to burn. Anything beyond that will just give airtime to
Leftist and Islamist Moon-bats and possibly giveaway to many
hints of our virtual battle plans.

If the NSA has Super Computer Sniffers butt-spliced to every
OC-192 pipe I don't want to give that information to every
enemy, foreign and domestic, that has free and clear access to
the Capitol Dome.

6 posted on 09/21/2005 7:55:57 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

CSPAN CSPAN


7 posted on 09/21/2005 7:56:35 PM PDT by Gorons
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To: bobsunshine

I am listening to Michael Savage right now...Sen Curt Wheldon said that 2.5 Terrabytes of info was ordered destroyed in 1999 about A Quaida, that is 1/4 of the Library of Congress and it is going to be the biggest scandal ever. The Pentagon is doing everything they can to keep this out of the press. I post the Savage on this site but it was removed? The 9/11 commission knew of the 2.5 terrabytes that were destroyed and did nothing. I am livid and outraged and feel like I live in N Korea.
abletruth


8 posted on 09/21/2005 7:57:08 PM PDT by abletruth (Liberals would Blame Bush For Their Bad Marriages...)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

According to schedule, CSPAN at 11:59PM EST tonight.


9 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:05 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: abletruth

A lot of people on this site do not like Savage. However, Savage has been on this story from the get go. Rush did not even mention the hearings today. Neither did Laura Ingraham. I guess some posters are so blind to what is going on, they cannot see the truth.


10 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:38 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: higgmeister

Echelon - This is a secret network rumored to be under development by the National Security Agency (NSA), supposedly designed to detect and capture packets crossing international borders that contain certain keywords, such as "bomb" or "assassination." There is no solid evidence to support the existence of Echelon. Many people confused this rumored system with the Carnivore system

Tha Aussies allready confirmed it's existence.

I know I pretty much speak for at least a few other when I say...

I dont give a crap how they found the information...I care about what the information IS...

We're talking potentially treasonous acts here man...We're told straight up that it was a lack of coherant intelligence...

Well that appears to be a bold faced lie...doesnt it...

Meaning it might very well have been the un-intended consequence of a political decision made out of self preservation...

Which also means that under the correct set of circumstances....it could happen again...

And not for lack of coherant inteligence...


11 posted on 09/21/2005 8:13:45 PM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: Crim

When this story finally comes around - I hope that the names o f the schmucks who ran Adm. Poindexter out of the NSA and away from the data mining projects he was working on are duly noted. Political correctness in the Senate and elsewhere killed what would have been good efforts. I'm just hoping the DOD kept working on them in spite of Sen Boxer, et. al.


12 posted on 09/21/2005 8:25:24 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: Crim

It is important to our national security that no one know that Bill Clinton personally knew of the Able Danger findings and that he personally ordered the destruction of all records. What would people think if they knew this?


13 posted on 09/21/2005 8:28:13 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: higgmeister; bobsunshine

data aquisition is the simple part to the point of data overload that brought about analysis paralysis...

it was the

STARLIGHT - Visual Information System http://starlight.pnl.gov/

and the

SPIRE - Visual TEST Analysis http://www.pnl.gov/infoviz/spire.pdf

that are the revolution and the heart of AbleDanger.


14 posted on 09/21/2005 8:30:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: bobsunshine

This web site only has the transcripts of each witness' opening statement right? Or am I missing the transcripts when each witness was questioned?


15 posted on 09/21/2005 8:30:24 PM PDT by vadkins
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To: Chode
make that: SPIRE - Visual TEXT Analysis
16 posted on 09/21/2005 8:32:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: abletruth

No, it's not North Korea. It is the political arena of the U.S and it stinks whether Republicans or Democrats are involved. There are very few (Curt Weldon) who actually step up and call a spada a spade. The majority are out to protect the intersanctum from public viewing. They are a disgraceful lot.


17 posted on 09/21/2005 8:41:04 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: vadkins

Yes, only opening statements since they were put in the "record". Looking for complete transcripts of questions. See:

http://qtmonster.typepad.com/

For posting of other site links to Able Danger


18 posted on 09/21/2005 8:48:14 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Thanks, as qtmonster.com is my blog. I have recorded part of a questioning session of the hearing today from C-SPAN3, but I missed the beginning. I have most of the Dugan questioning. I intend to transcribe this on my blog, hopefully tomorrow.


19 posted on 09/21/2005 8:56:34 PM PDT by vadkins
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To: bobsunshine
BTW, a blogger with an intelligence background, reports today that he took a phone call from a source who told him that Rumsfeld did not order LTC Shaffer not to testify at today's hearing. The blogger was told that the order came from someone much higher than Rumsfeld. The Freerepublic post is at here.
20 posted on 09/21/2005 9:06:22 PM PDT by vadkins
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