Posted on 09/21/2005 7:36:31 PM PDT by bobsunshine
Testimony of all people from today's hearing of the Senate Judiciaary Committee are located at this site:
DATE: September 21, 2005 TIME: 09:30 AM ROOM: 226 Dirksen OFFICIAL HEARING NOTICE / WITNESS LIST:
September 8, 2005
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING RESCHEDULED -- Wed., September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.
The hearing on “Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building has been rescheduled to take place on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.
By order of the Chairman
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"Political correctness" is a 'play' way to say it. I call it traitors."
Sorry, I meant 'polite' way to say it.
Please ping me when you post the Q & A. That's the meat of the hearing. and thanks!
"The compiled information would be uploaded into an interactive computer program designed by the contractor that would create depictions of the links accompanied by all the underlying data to support those links."
I was interested in data mining and data warehousing. At one point in time and did some reading on the subject. Data warehousing was initially used by large corporations to come to combine all the date it in a corporation into one huge pile---then analyze it. This includes completely incompatible data from any kind of program in the corporation. Techniques involved include "data cleaning"---cleaning the data so that it can be combined with previously incompatible types.
Once the data is gathered together into the warehouse, advanced software techniques are used to draw sometimes amazing inferences from connections between the pieces of data.
While data warehousing sounds mundane, the results are magic. For example, one large retail Corp. discovered, with no person directing the computer in this direction, but they had a high rate of theft of batteries, compared to other retail items. As a result of this finding, they moved all the batteries in their stores to the vicinity of the checkout counter. This cut theft significantly.
Just try to imagine the amount of data that exists today inside a large corporation. Of course, the amount of data available to able danger was much larger than that. The point is, no one had to decide in advance, what was important and what wasn't. Therein lies the tremendous power of the technique.
Now you can see how Al Qaeda members, apparently hidden, could have a flashlight shown on them using this technique.
Okay, national security generally trumps all other issues. But Congress could investigate what the 9/11 Commission knew about Able Danger, and what the Commission did or didn't do about it. And none of the spook stuff would have to come out. The 9/11 Commission was a creature of Congress. I think a big issue here is how the 9/11 Commission dealt with the facts.
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Now it is really getting curiousier....Rove action maybe???
Things are certainly stirred up!
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"We're talking potentially treasonous acts here man...We're told straight up that it was a lack of coherant intelligence... "
Seems there is alot of that going on in Washington DC these days.
"Now it is really getting curiousier....Rove action maybe???"
I think the pot is at too much of a boil for Rove to put the lid on that's what you're thinking.
HEHEHE
I had NOT seen that letter from Slate Gordon. I'm sure he's praying that no documents are ever found and that this issue does not move forward.
He's as interested in protecting his legacy as Bob Woodward is in protecting his.
bobsunshine, I just happened to flip by and catch part of this interview. I thought folks on your thread might be interested: Here's just the relevant, small, excerpted portion of the CNN/Lou Dobbs transcript, and I must say, Dobbs wasn't acting. His interest in Able Danger seemed real to me. I was quite surprised Dobbs was giving Able Danger this attention on a day when interest in Fitzpatrick's decision is reaching fever pitch.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/20/ldt.01.html
Thursday, 20 October, 2005
"Congressman Curt Weldon says the man who blew the whistle on this intelligence, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer is now the subject of a smear campaign by the Defense Intelligence Agency. Congressman Weldon blasted the DIA in a fiery speech on the House floor just last night.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REP. CURT WELDON (R-PA), VICE CHMN., ARMED SERVICE CMTE.: This is an attempt to prevent the American people from knowing the facts about how we could have prevented 9/11, and people are covering it up today. And they're ruining the career of a military officer to do it, and we can't let it stand.
I don't care whether you are Democrat or Republican, you can't let a Lieutenant Colonel's career be ruined because of some bureaucrat in the Defense Intelligence Agency. If we let that happen, then no one who wears the uniform will ever feel protected because we will have let them down.
(END VIDEO CLIP) DOBBS: Congressman Weldon joins us from Capitol Hill. Congressman, what prompted your call for an immediate investigation?
WELDON: Lou, this is so outrageous it makes me sick to my stomach. As a loyal member of the Armed Services Committee supporting the military for 19 years, the Intelligence Agency took away Tony Shaffer's security clearance. They're now about to take away his health care benefits -- he has two children -- and his salary because he told the truth.
When they took away his security clearance, they said in September 23rd in a letter, you can never see any classified information or documents again. Over the weekend they sent this box, Lou, labeled Defense Intelligence Agency to his home.
In the box were five classified documents. They sent five classified documents mistakenly to Tony Shaffer at his home. The Defense Intelligence Agency is on a witch-hunt. They accused him of stealing pens. This is outrageous.
DOBBS: Congressman, why would the Defense Intelligence Agency want to destroy the reputation, as you point out, a decorated career member of the United States military?
WELDON: Lou, when the story is told, when the Able Danger story comes out, there's going to be embarrassment all over the place. The Defense Intelligence Agency spending hundreds of millions of dollars could not do what a 20 member special team did in identifying through data mining Mohammed Atta and the Brooklyn cell one year before 9/11.
Those DIA officials are still in the agency. They are still there working, and they don't want Tony Shaffer to tell the truth. They don't want commander Scott Philpott to tell the truth, because they are then going to have to answer the question, why did you ignore this, why did you not take appropriate steps? Why did this information not be passed to the FBI? Louis Freeh this past Sunday said on "Meet the Press" that if he had had the Able Danger information, the FBI could have stopped the hijackings. That's Louis Freeh saying that this past Sunday.
DOBBS: And to be clear, the suggestion is that the Pentagon stopped Able Danger from sharing that information with the FBI or any other agency that might have acted, is that correct?
WELDON: Absolutely. It was September of 2000 when it was stopped.
DOBBS: Now, the 9/11 Commission at first denied that Able Danger existed, that they had been told anything about this. That was the first remark from Lee Hamilton. It was the first response from the staff. Subsequently it turned out that, yes, they had heard about Able Danger on two occasions.
How do you feel about the commission and its reaction to Able Danger and the allegations that have been made? WELDON: Well, Lou, I supported the commission when it was established. I know some of the commissioners. I'm convinced that commissioners themselves were never briefed.
But what I have found out is Scott Philpott, an Annapolis grad, voluntarily went in and briefed a 9/11 Commission staffer in July of 2004, told the 9/11 Commission staffer about Able Danger. That 9/11 Commission staffer made a decision not to brief the commissioners. That 9/11 Commission staffer was working for Jamie Gorelick, who was a member of the commission who wrote the famous memo that said they could not transfer information between the military and the FBI.
DOBBS: The so-called wall.
WELDON: Yes.
DOBBS: Congressman Curt Weldon, we thank you for being here. We're going to follow this carefully, as are you. We would like you to come back with every development, and we will continue to follow this rigorously.
WELDON: Thank you, Lou.
DOBBS: Thank you, Congressman, and thank you for your concern on the issue."
thxlot... Lou knows sh!t when he smells it, and this stinks to high heaven.
Yeah, Powell and Armitage are showing themselves to be two of them.
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