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Obstructing traffic
Prudence | 22 Septem 2005 | Ron Pickrell

Posted on 09/22/2005 7:38:56 AM PDT by pickrell

On the way to work today, the southbound traffic in Columbus Ohio was held up for miles. Untold fuel was expended and an indeterminable number of persons were late for work, appointments, and other committments. Many minutes later we inched our way past the cause of the delay- two vehicles sitting motionless in the roadway.

You might assume that terrible loss of life had occurred, or the vehicles were wrecked beyond movement. You'd be wrong. The drivers of the 2 vehicles had engaged in a minor fender-bender, and were waiting for the police to arrive unsolicited, so that they could plead their respective cases against insurance payouts.

Drivers in the other lanes were availing themselves of long, delicious "oooh...aaaaah!" gawks to try to snatch a glimpse of blood or absorb dark delight in how bad the accident had been.

Flash forward, (at least back to 45 miles per hour), and read the Drudge Report about a hundred miles of traffic out of Houston locked up to a standstill, and a bad feeling overcomes you.

Can we not agree, as a rational society, that the personal self-absorption manifested by holding up a huge number of people, instead of pulling the vehicles off to the berm, is a bad, perhaps even rotten, thing to do? Could we not further stipulate that the duty of any driver, finding himself in front of a massive contingent of other drivers, is NOT to slow down to a crawl so as to better soak up the carnage, but rather... to drive?

In any major catastrophe, the whole of the people depend on all of the individuals involved exercising reason and prudence in their actions. In future, it should be mandated that any drivers, finding the entire evacuation held up by the mindless actions of a few drivers, should exit their vehicles, firmly escort the brain-dead obstructors to the berm, and push or force the roadblocks out of the way, brooking no argument from the obstructors.

Mercifully, it will play out that other causes brought the evacuation of Houston to a temporary halt. Can you imagine in future if such foolishness caused massive death along the evacuation route because such mindlessness occurred?

I can.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: gettingoutofdodge; perspective; rubbernecks; sanity; switchtodecaf

1 posted on 09/22/2005 7:38:57 AM PDT by pickrell
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To: pickrell
Travelling around the country, Lady Liberty and I saw several signs on urban freeways encouraging people to get their cars off the road after fender-benders.

I won't go around calling the folks referred to in this article a bunch of names, though. Waiting for the poice and not moving things was the way most of us were taught. Now, there is need for change, and it'll have to be done state by state.

2 posted on 09/22/2005 7:46:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: pickrell

My son has a huge chevy truck with a lift kit, I have a tire for him to chain on the brush guard in case of an emergency so that he can push the kind of idiots you mention out of the way.


3 posted on 09/22/2005 7:48:42 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: pickrell

Just remember, half of the people out there have below average intelligence! I suspect that they are the democRATS.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 7:49:23 AM PDT by midwestmidnight
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To: pickrell

What we need is the return of real chrome plated steel bumpers. The "5mph bumper" that falls off in the center lane Jap Crap just plain sucks. My crown vic may look goofy with a primered steel front & back bumper, but people don't mess with me.


5 posted on 09/22/2005 7:50:40 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: pickrell

This helps explain why reality TV shows get such high ratings.

And why people line up to throw the ball at the dunk tank.

Could also explain why some people are Democrats.


6 posted on 09/22/2005 7:52:37 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: pickrell
I drive Columbus frequently. It can be a pretty ignorant place. I have crawled through traffic jams caused by rubberneckers gawking at a COP WRITING A TRAFFIC TICKET! Not much else going on there, I guess.
7 posted on 09/22/2005 7:54:13 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: midwestmidnight

I think 90% of people are below average intelligence. That's my Yogi thought for the day.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 7:54:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Fierce Allegiance RULES the wasteland!

9 posted on 09/22/2005 7:57:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Here in Philly, people cause traffic delays by gawking at cars pulled off to the side of the road ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DIVIDED HIGHWAY ! And of course shortly thereafter, there's another fender bender caused by such gawking.

Sorry, there's no known remedy for stupidity.


10 posted on 09/22/2005 7:58:29 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

We have, in Atlanta, places called Accident Investigation Areas, and you are required by law -- if your car is mobile -- to get to one of those instead of staying on the road, during fender benders.


11 posted on 09/22/2005 8:01:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
A few miles down the road, I saw a rig that can haul that tankah.

You wanna get out of heah, you talk to me.

12 posted on 09/22/2005 8:02:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Lazamataz

A poster, a quick poster might have a weapon under that keyboard.

I'd have to pin his head to the monitor.


13 posted on 09/22/2005 8:04:04 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: cinives

That's rubber-necking, and I hate that too. Unless it's a really cool wreck....


14 posted on 09/22/2005 8:04:57 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Lazamataz

That makes sense. Hard to believe some government thought that up.


15 posted on 09/22/2005 8:05:25 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Guzzoline! Lots of it! All you want! Pumpin' it, they are! Refinin' it! Kachoonk, kachoonk, kachoonk, kachoonk .....


16 posted on 09/22/2005 8:06:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I am the Ayatollah of Rock & Rollah!


17 posted on 09/22/2005 8:08:42 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: Lazamataz

It's my snake, I trained and I'm gonna eat it.
I got a recipe for snake.
Fricasee of reptile.


18 posted on 09/22/2005 8:10:29 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: manwiththehands
I drive Columbus frequently. It can be a pretty ignorant place. I have crawled through traffic jams caused by rubberneckers gawking at a COP WRITING A TRAFFIC TICKET! Not much else going on there, I guess.

This kind of stupidity is everywhere. I've been in traffic jams in San Jose, CA, caused by a group of bikers pulled off to the side of the road to take their jackets off because the weather was warming up.

Another time some idiot came to a FULL STOP in front of me on a freeway on-ramp to look at someone changing a tire on the shoulder.

19 posted on 09/22/2005 8:11:33 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Just walk away, and we can end all this violence.
Just walk away, and I'll spare your lives.
20 posted on 09/22/2005 8:12:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Lingerie. Oh, remember lingerie?


(it's really from Mad Max 2)


21 posted on 09/22/2005 8:12:58 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: Lazamataz

Don't touch please, that's a precision instrument.


22 posted on 09/22/2005 8:13:52 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You're quick, I'll give you that. Never seen a man beat a snake. Never. Reflexes, that's what you've got. Me? I've got brains.


23 posted on 09/22/2005 8:16:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Nothing to do but breed!


24 posted on 09/22/2005 8:16:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Be still my dog of war. I understand your pain. We've all lost someone we love ... But, we do it my way. Fear is our ally. After, you can have your revenge.


25 posted on 09/22/2005 8:18:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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Thank goodness! I thought this was another "I hate bicyclists" thread.


26 posted on 09/22/2005 8:19:00 AM PDT by whd23
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Paradise! Two thousand miles from here. Fresh water. Plenty of sunshine. ...


27 posted on 09/22/2005 8:20:00 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Lazamataz

I've sweated blood over this rig and I'm not gonna ride in some lousy schoolbus!

(Who would of thought Ray Nagin was an extra in RW?)


28 posted on 09/22/2005 8:22:09 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Disambiguator
"Another time some idiot came to a FULL STOP in front of me on a freeway on-ramp to look at someone changing a tire on the shoulder."

Ah, yes.....but was the person who came to a FULL STOP talking on his (or her) hand-held cell phone -- sharing the details of what it was like to see someone changing a tire on the shoulder with friend?

29 posted on 09/22/2005 8:27:07 AM PDT by Michael Bluth
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To: Lazamataz

Don't listen to them! It's bad
enough the lunatics are running the
asylum. Don't let them throw away
the key.


30 posted on 09/22/2005 8:28:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: cinives

"Sorry, there's no known remedy for stupidity."

Or to put it another way: If stupidity were painful, there’s not enough aspirin to go around.


31 posted on 09/22/2005 8:30:06 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: whd23

That one was pretty bad. I think that maybe 5% of the posts had to do with the intersection in question (if you are referring to the San Fran article from yesterday).


32 posted on 09/22/2005 8:34:03 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: Betis70

Yep, that's the one. The rest had to do with horse trailers, or something :)


33 posted on 09/22/2005 8:36:50 AM PDT by whd23
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To: pickrell

Here in the northeast, radio traffic reports call those "rubbernecking" delays.


34 posted on 09/22/2005 8:40:25 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Michael Bluth

Negative on the cell phone. This was back around 1989.


35 posted on 09/22/2005 8:54:22 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Waiting for the poice and not moving things was the way most of us were taught.

It was? I was taught that unless there was severe damage so that you could not move the car, or unless there was a serious injury, that you should get off the road, exchange insurance information, and make a report to the police. The cops are not about to arrive on the scene of a fender bender and do a major accident analysis. In fact, they'll most likely tell you to get the hell out of the traffic lanes.

36 posted on 09/22/2005 9:59:54 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-

I learned in a more-or-less rural state.


37 posted on 09/22/2005 10:09:24 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: -YYZ-
Dallas and Houston have passed city ordinances that require those in traffic accidents to get completely off the freeway, to a feeder road or a parking lot somewhere, if the cars can be moved.

If you don't, the city will tow your car off the highway and charge you a $100 impoundment fee.

Those affected gripe like hell, but it has certainly cleared up traffic congestion, especially during rush hours.

38 posted on 09/22/2005 10:09:31 AM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

So did I, but the expectation was always there that for accidents not involving serious injuries or major damage that the parties involved would make a report to the police themselves if the damage was over $500. I've been both the cause and the victim of fender benders a few times and I never expected the cops to show up. I had better things to do than wait for a cop to drive by, anyway.


39 posted on 09/22/2005 10:29:00 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Right Wing Assault

It's theoretically possible to have that, the only problem with that math would be that if those numbers hold true, then, we only have 10% conservatives in the country. ;)

Paul


40 posted on 09/22/2005 11:34:07 AM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: MissAmericanPie

Great way to get yer son hurt.....


41 posted on 09/22/2005 11:39:14 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: spacewarp

OK. Good point. Revision. It only applies to non-conservatives.


42 posted on 09/22/2005 3:06:56 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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