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1 posted on 09/22/2005 10:17:52 AM PDT by inkling
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In another alarming example, the ACLU joined a suit against Catholic Charities, demanding that the organization provide contraception coverage in any group prescription-drug program offered to its employees. Since the teachings of the Catholic Church prohibit the use of such contraceptives, the ACLU was demanding that the state force the group to violate the tenets of its founding faith.

Sadly, the Supreme Court of California agreed with the ACLU's reasoning that since Catholic Charities employs and ministers to non-Catholics, it was not allowed to faithfully follow Catholic doctrine. Another ACLU body blow designed to subvert religious freedom.

Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 09/22/2005 10:22:58 AM PDT by NYer
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To: inkling
"They believe that they answer to a higher power, in my opinion, which is the kind of thinking that you had with the people who flew the airplanes into the buildings in this country, and the people who did the kind of things in London."

The old Christians = islamic terrorists because they all believe in some kind of religion argument.

For a comparison:

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It is a nice sounding theory that when you separate the Christian Church from the state, you get stability, but it does not pass the common sense test.

For instance, I know it is the first words out of any atheist mouth when you try to talk with them about Jesus, “Explain the Inquisition," and “Look how evil the church was!" and "Look what they did in the name of Jesus!"

It is true that about 500 years ago, Christian fanatics killed about 10,000 people over a 100 year time period (about 100/year) in the name of the Roman Catholic church. It is a shame on the record of an organization that claims to be promoting the ministry of Christ.

Now compare this record to the example of the countries that have officially done away with religion. To the countries that have outright banned religion and imprisoned those who try to practice it (the ultimate test of the theory of separation of church and state).

Yes, I am talking about Communist countries. In the Communist Manifesto, Engel and Marx declared, "Communism abolishes all religion." In my father's lifetime, the numbers of people that officially atheist countries have murdered in the name of no-religion is staggering; the USSR slaughtered 20 million, China slaughtered 10 million, Communist Cambodia slaughtered 2 million, Communist North Korea has/continues to murder untold numbers, Communist Cuba has/continues to murder untold numbers, the list goes on.

The grand total is at least over 50 million dead in the last 80-year time span (over 600,000/year). Even comparing the worst time of "Christian Persecution" to an average time of a just one country that has officially and forcefully separated church and state, the conclusion is obvious: Christianity has a huge calming influence on government.

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3 posted on 09/22/2005 10:24:14 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: inkling
An ACLU paralegal "discovered" the three-decades-old plaques and e-mailed the National Park Service to demand an explanation. This simple correspondence so rattled the Park Service that they removed the plaques without a legal fight.

The same National Park Service that is fighting to keep the crescent memorial?

4 posted on 09/22/2005 10:24:17 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: inkling

Ironically, the ACLU's war on chr*stianity (which is based on a cult of "otherness" and not on Judaism) is always interpreted by the "palaeos" as an essentially "Talmudic" campaign being coordinated by aged pious Chassidic rabbis, even though the ACLU has spent four years defending Arabs and moslems and regards the Israeli flag as an instrument of torture.


5 posted on 09/22/2005 10:27:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo-ya`avdukh yo'vedu!)
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To: inkling
The ACLU are worshipers of death and are to be opposed at every opportunity.
7 posted on 09/22/2005 10:36:06 AM PDT by A message (The Democrat party platform is NOT in the mainstream. It is just foolish.)
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To: Jay777

Ping for the list


8 posted on 09/22/2005 10:37:50 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: inkling
My tagline used to say:
"If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson
BINGO!! If you follow these lawsuits it is always some leftist judge that agrees with the ACLU. This truly is
All About The Judges
Looks like Judge Roberts will be confirmed. Need need another strong conservative to replace Sandy and then, maybe, we can start taking our country back from the commies.
10 posted on 09/22/2005 11:08:14 AM PDT by upchuck (A fireman running up the stairs at the WTC as the towers began to collapse: HERO defined ~ Ben Stein)
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later read/ping.


12 posted on 09/22/2005 12:14:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: inkling
The ACLU, from its creation onward, has been dedicated to undermining the foundations of our society and way of life. It was founded by Fabian Socialists--with several actual Communists on board--precisely for that purpose.

See Leftwing Word Games & Religious Freedom.

William Flax

14 posted on 09/22/2005 1:24:23 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: inkling
Here is an excellent reference for proving that our Founding Fathers were indeed Christians. If you home school, you may want to book mark this.

Library of Congress; Religion and the Founding of the American Republic
16 posted on 09/22/2005 6:13:28 PM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: inkling

INTSUM


17 posted on 09/22/2005 6:48:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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19 posted on 09/23/2005 6:13:48 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: inkling

BFLR


21 posted on 10/08/2005 3:45:36 PM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: inkling

ACLU = Anti Christian Litigations Unit


22 posted on 10/08/2005 5:28:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: inkling
"They believe that they answer to a higher power, in my opinion, which is the kind of thinking that you had with the people who flew the airplanes into the buildings in this country, and the people who did the kind of things in London"

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Eliminate the "higher power" and you remove the basis for our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...exactly the goal of the ACLU.

23 posted on 10/08/2005 5:30:11 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: inkling

Just to be clear, the ACLU is merely the Democrat Party's "point man" in the war on religion, in furtherance of the Democrat Party's primary objective of foisting Euro-style secular socialism on the nation through the courts.

I sure hope Bush appoints no-doubt-about-it conservative judges with paper trails a mile long to that ultimate battleground for the soul of the nation, the Supreme Court. Bush will have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to save America and there is absolutely no room for error.... What?
Oh. Nevermind.


24 posted on 10/08/2005 5:39:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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