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Scientists: You Can't Modify Hurricanes
ABC News ^ | 9-22-2005 | JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA

Posted on 09/22/2005 4:09:45 PM PDT by Cagey

DENVER Sep 22, 2005 — It sounds like a great idea: Let's just blast hurricanes like Rita and Katrina out of the sky before they hurt more people. Or, at least weaken the storms and steer them away from cities.

Atmospheric scientists say it's wishful thinking that we could destroy or even influence something as huge and powerful as a hurricane. They abandoned such a quest years ago after more than two decades of inconclusive government-sponsored research.

Private companies have conducted tests on a much smaller scale, but have made little progress despite initially claiming to erase storm clouds from the atmosphere.

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"It would be like trying to move a car with a pea shooter," said hydrometeorologist Matthew Kelsch of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder. "The amount of energy involved in a hurricane is far greater that anything we're going to impart to it."

The federal government's hurricane modification program was called Project Stormfury. The idea was raised during the Eisenhower administration after several major storms hit the East Coast in the mid-1950s, killing 749 people and causing billions in damages.

But it wasn't until 1961 that initial tests were conducted on Hurricane Esther with a Navy plane releasing silver iodide crystals. Some reports indicate winds were reduced by 10 percent to 30 percent.

During Stormfury, scientists also seeded hurricanes in 1963, 1969 and 1971 over the open Atlantic Ocean far from land.

Researchers dropped silver iodide, a substance that serves as an effective ice nuclei, into clouds just outside of the hurricane's eyewall. The idea was that a new ring of clouds would form around the artificial ice nuclei. The new clouds were supposed to change rain patterns and form a new eyewall that would collapse the old one. The reformed hurricane would spin more slowly and be less dangerous.

Sometimes, the experiments appeared to work. Hurricane Debbie in 1969 was seeded twice over four days by several aircraft. Researchers noted that its intensity waxed and waned by up to 30 percent.


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KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; rita; roveweathermachine; science; scinence
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1 posted on 09/22/2005 4:09:46 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

FYI


2 posted on 09/22/2005 4:10:50 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey
What not? just drop thousands of depth charges in the path of the hurricane to drive up the cooler water from the depths of the sea. Since they say hurricanes gain their power from warm surface water, feed it cold water.
3 posted on 09/22/2005 4:12:39 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cagey
Sometimes, the experiments appeared to work. Hurricane Debbie in 1969 was seeded twice over four days by several aircraft. Researchers noted that its intensity waxed and waned by up to 30 percent.

The real story is that the storm simply went throgh normal natural eyewall replacements, which weren't fully understood at the time, thus they thought they'd actually had an effect on the storm.

4 posted on 09/22/2005 4:13:14 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Cagey
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5 posted on 09/22/2005 4:13:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The entire US inventory of depth charges wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference.


6 posted on 09/22/2005 4:13:47 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Cagey

If Clark Kent can reverse time, what's a little wind?


7 posted on 09/22/2005 4:14:43 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Cagey

I'll tell you what. If a hurricane is heading toward Houston, they mess with it, and it changes track FOR ANY REASON, and hits, say the Florida panhandle, the lawyers would have a field day.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 4:14:44 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Strategerist; Nathan Zachary

Perhaps Nathan meant this kind of depth charge.

9 posted on 09/22/2005 4:15:22 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

Why not spend half-a-billion sending seeding clouds with dry ice, or simply spraying cold water on the cloud tops of building storms.


10 posted on 09/22/2005 4:15:44 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Cagey

BS. All we have to do is stick a big sharp icicle into it's eye.


11 posted on 09/22/2005 4:16:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Since our media now belongs to the world, it has no right to any knowledge about our business.)
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To: Cagey

Thats right people. Nothing you can do will ever weaken the power of storms generated by Karl Rove's Weather Machine ! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

;-)


12 posted on 09/22/2005 4:16:23 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Cagey
No day old defecation, Sherlock!


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

13 posted on 09/22/2005 4:18:14 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: Cagey

Wonder what multiple fuel-air-explosive, FAEs would do inside the eye? This is the weapon they were talking about to create huge over-pressure to colapse underground bunkers.


14 posted on 09/22/2005 4:18:28 PM PDT by xcct838
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To: F.J. Mitchell
All we have to do is stick a big sharp icicle into it's eye

We'e talking 'bout hurricanse not Die Hard with a Vengeance

15 posted on 09/22/2005 4:18:52 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush)
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To: xcct838
Wonder what multiple fuel-air-explosive, FAEs would do inside the eye?

Considering multiple megaton fusion nukes inside the eye would have no effect other than to make the rain radioactive, FAEs wouldn't have the slightest effect.

16 posted on 09/22/2005 4:19:16 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Cagey

Nope, never touch the stuff.


17 posted on 09/22/2005 4:19:24 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cagey

Nuke them!


18 posted on 09/22/2005 4:19:54 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Cagey
Maybe we should drop a hot air balloon on the hurricane, anyone come to mind, I vote for Kennedy.
19 posted on 09/22/2005 4:20:17 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Cagey
Is there nothing that can be done to influence them when hurricanes are just at the tropical depression level? I'll grant that going after a full-fledged Category 3 hurricane spread out over 100's of miles is a pointless venture, but it seems that something could be done to diffuse tropical depressions to keep them from forming hurricanes.

This is definitely not an area where I have any depth of knowledge, but I've always been curious.

20 posted on 09/22/2005 4:20:29 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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