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Greyhound requiring employees to screen for illegal immigrants
The Seattle Times ^ | September 22, 2005 | Elliot Spagat

Posted on 09/22/2005 9:56:20 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

SAN DIEGO — Greyhound Lines Inc., the nation's largest intercity bus company, has threatened to fire employees who sell bus tickets to illegal immigrants under an internal policy that some Hispanic advocacy groups are calling an invitation to racial profiling.

The "Transportation of Illegal Aliens" policy warns Greyhound's customer service employees to beware of people in large groups, moving in single file and traveling with little or no luggage. It says other telltale signs include people "trying to hide or stay out of plain view" or large groups led by a "guide" who holds everyone's tickets.

Greyhound also says immigrant smugglers give themselves away by calling bus stations to ask if immigration authorities are present, and by loitering, repeatedly buying large numbers of tickets for other people and using phrases like, "These guys just crossed the line," "my cargo," and "I've got to move my people."

The policy warns that failure to comply could result in the employee's firing and possibly arrest.

Kimberly Plaskett, a Greyhound spokeswoman, said she didn't know how many customers have been denied tickets under the policy but called it a "pretty rare" occurrence. The Dallas-based company adopted the policy in 2002 in response to the criminal indictment of a now-defunct, California bus company that pleaded guilty to immigrant smuggling, she said.

The policy was largely unknown outside the company until La Opinion, a Spanish-language newspaper in Los Angeles, reported on it earlier this month.

The National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, an advocacy group in Oakland, provided a copy of the three-page policy to The Associated Press. Greyhound confirmed its accuracy.

Two migrant advocacy groups held a conference call with Greyhound attorneys on Sept. 9 to urge the company to reconsider its position, saying it invites discrimination against Hispanics.

"When the standard is that you should know who is in the U.S. illegally, it is a recipe for singling out Latinos," said Cecilia Munoz of the National Council of La Raza in Washington, D.C., who participated in the call. "You're not going to go after the Irish-looking guy."

John Trasvina of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund in Los Angeles, who also joined the call, took issue with Greyhound's requirement that employees deny tickets to "anyone you know or believe to be an illegal alien."

"On what basis does someone know it or believe to know that?" Trasvina said. "There's a great risk that the employee will go overboard."

Large Hispanic groups are more likely to be targeted than a Japanese or German tour group, he said.

Greyhound notes that while the policy prohibits profiling based on "race, national heritage, gender, age, religion, disability, etc," federal law also makes it a crime to knowingly transport an illegal immigrant.

"We have to comply with federal law or we face pretty severe consequences - criminal indictments, seizure of assets," she said.

The policy was adopted in response to the 2001 indictment of Golden State Transportation Co. of Los Angeles on immigrant smuggling charges. The company later filed for bankruptcy and it pleaded guilty last year to transporting an estimated 42,100 illegal immigrants from Tucson, Ariz., to Los Angeles, using a roundabout route through Las Vegas to avoid Border Patrol checkpoints. The company paid a $3 million fine and forfeited a downtown Phoenix terminal.

According to the indictment, buses typically left border cities after midnight to escape detection. Passengers appeared dirty, had no luggage, hid in the bushes near terminals and boarded buses at the last minute, prosecutors said.

"It wasn't one criteria, but you put them all together and it was obvious that these people were not in the country legally," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Wallace H. Kleinstedt, who prosecuted the case.

Greyhound, which carried 21.2 million passengers last year to more than 2,200 destinations, with a fleet of 2,700 buses and 9,700 employees, isn't the only company with such a policy.

Sistema Internacional de Transporte de Autobuses Inc., a Greyhound subsidiary, owned a 51 percent stake in Golden State. It currently operates the Crucero and Autobuses Americanos bus lines and has had a policy similar to Greyhound's since 2002, said Al Penedo, chief operating officer.

"It might sound a little overzealous, but we were scared, concerned and confused about what happened to Golden State," said Penedo. "It was a wake-up call. ... (The federal government) can walk in, take the bus, put your driver in jail and throw away the key."

He said no customers have complained and agents haven't denied any tickets under the policy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; greyhound; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist
Legal and illegal Irish are leaving the USA to return to the Old Sod's booming economy.
1 posted on 09/22/2005 9:56:21 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Patronize Greyhound and urge other companies to act accordingly.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 09/22/2005 9:59:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
The ACLU and MALDEF are going to hate that.
3 posted on 09/22/2005 9:59:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: neverdem

Place your bets: Successful lawsuit against Greyhound resulting in heavy payments to illegals.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 10:00:39 PM PDT by zarf (It's swollen, yes.)
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To: neverdem; Admin Moderator

Already posted


5 posted on 09/22/2005 10:03:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Already posted

A long time ago after they changed the title. Maybe other folks on the grave yard shift would be interested in reading it.

Greyhound to Screen for Illegal Immigrants

Posted by SmithL
On News/Activism 09/22/2005 3:29:49 PM EDT · 279 replies · 2,341+ views


6 posted on 09/22/2005 10:15:39 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
...or large groups led by a "guide" who holds everyone's tickets.

President Bush leading a large group of 15 million, and holding their Amnesty cards Guest Worker permits??

7 posted on 09/22/2005 11:10:50 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: neverdem

Maybe the federal Immigration agency would be willing to assist, since they are the closest thing to a duly appointed responsible organization.

Nah. Why would anybody think they'd do it?

Not enough resources, other higher priorities, etc.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 11:15:17 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: neverdem
to beware of people in large groups, moving in single file and traveling with little or no luggage. It says other telltale signs include people "trying to hide or stay out of plain view" or large groups led by a "guide" who holds everyone's tickets.
Greyhound also says immigrant smugglers give themselves away by
...

As opposed to what the illegal-alien advocacy groups scream about potential "discrimination" against illegal aliens and innocent people who happen to look like illegal aliens, this policy appears clear that Greyhound wants to avoid being part of human trafficking (whether for moral reasons or risk avoidance).

It doesn't sound like there's any change with respect to regular travelers who are illegal aliens, as long as they're not being smuggled.

9 posted on 09/22/2005 11:30:43 PM PDT by heleny (Yes on CA Propositions 73, 74, 75)
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To: neverdem
God bless Greyhound! Best part here is that although most people don't know this, Greyhound owns all of the other large cross country bus lines. They have just let them continue operating under their own/old name but the are Greyhound's nonetheless. If they spread this to their subsidiaries, wow!
10 posted on 09/23/2005 5:26:42 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The quisling ratmedia: always eager to remind us of why we hate them.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ah, the double post police on the job. I feel so safe.........


11 posted on 09/23/2005 6:46:49 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the Gulf Coast.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Already posted"

you must be bored?


12 posted on 09/23/2005 7:57:33 AM PDT by monday
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To: neverdem
I used to love to ride the double decker.


13 posted on 09/23/2005 9:01:33 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the Gulf Coast.)
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To: neverdem

Should check all of them, I've gone through 5 years of immigration & background checks with my company, it's the right way to do things.

14 posted on 09/23/2005 9:06:04 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: goldstategop
Patronize Greyhound and urge other companies to act accordingly.

especially the airlines

15 posted on 09/23/2005 10:00:05 AM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: neverdem
Greyhound also says immigrant smugglers give themselves away by calling bus stations to ask if immigration authorities are present

that tips the smugglers off to prospective customers, since the immigration authorities might be dropping them off at the station

16 posted on 09/23/2005 10:06:29 AM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: neverdem
"These guys just crossed the line," "my cargo," and "I've got to move my people."

these phrases would most likely be spoken in Spanish

17 posted on 09/23/2005 10:08:21 AM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: neverdem
Kimberly Plaskett, a Greyhound spokeswoman, said she didn't know how many customers have been denied tickets under the policy but called it a "pretty rare" occurrence.IF it's pretty rare, it's because a lot of their agents are ignoring their policy.

These Mexican groups and the ACLU are going to sue Greyhound over this. I hate the ACLU. They are a terrorist group. IMO they've done far more harm to America than terrorists have. At this point anyway. :o)

18 posted on 09/23/2005 12:24:57 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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