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TORY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE BEST THING FOR DISABLED CHILDREN IS THE GUILLOTINE
By Geoffrey Lakeman

A TORY deputy mayor has sparked outrage by calling for disabled kids to be guillotined to avoid wasting cash on their care.

Retired GP Owen Lister made his sick suggestion to fellow councillors as they discussed sending the youngsters to a £3,000-a-week care home.

Mr Lister, 79, told them: "I would guillotine them."

He has now quit as deputy mayor but yesterday stood by his outburst.

He said: "I indicated at that point that perhaps the guillotine might be better.

"These are children you can't educate. It's merely a matter of caring for them until they die.

 

 

"The only difference between a terminally ill patient and a severely handicapped child is time." The councillor, of Swindon, Wilts, argued the funds should instead be used to cut NHS waiting lists.

 

He added: "It shows how peculiar we are as a society on this matter that we spend this vast amount of money caring for disabled youngsters to very little purpose at all.

 

"It would be better spent on those who might actually benefit, such as cancer sufferers. We have 5,800 people waiting to go into hospital in Swindon. A percentage of those will die as a result of waiting too long."

 

His remarks came as the borough council's children's committee debated putting youngsters in a Cornwall home. Labour councillor Fay Howard said: "There was a slight pause and looks of disbelief. Everyone was totally shocked."

 

Labour colleague Barrie Thompson, the committee's vice-chairman, likened Lister to one of Hitler's henchmen. He said: "The last time I heard remarks like that were from Heinrich Himmler."

 

And the Disability Rights Commission added: "It's chilling that an elected representative with responsibilities for deciding on support to disabled children should view the slaughter of innocents as legitimate public comment."

 

Mr Lister also quit the children's committee and now faces a council probe.

 

A council spokeswoman said: "He recognised he'd said something deeply inappropriate that could cause offence and resigned straight away."

 

 

1 posted on 09/24/2005 1:16:31 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Hand him over to the jihadis.


2 posted on 09/24/2005 1:18:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Stoat
I wonder how many of those outraged Brits think it's OK to abort a baby who might be born disabled?
3 posted on 09/24/2005 1:20:02 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Stoat

A product of socialized medicine at his best...

Nice eyebrows, too.


4 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:06 PM PDT by 43north (If you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're still liberal at 40 you have no brain.)
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To: Stoat

Ok, who forgot to get the keys to the drug cabinet back from him when he retired...


6 posted on 09/24/2005 1:25:18 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Stoat

The Doc should use a guillotine on those eyebrows of his...or at least some hedge trimeers.


7 posted on 09/24/2005 1:25:48 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Stoat
The Nazi's favored poison gas for killing the disabled and retarded and even made a propaganda ilm called Life Without Life to justify the process. I'm sure this gentleman could find a lot of detailed information how to carry out such a program in the transcripts of the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials.
8 posted on 09/24/2005 1:27:21 PM PDT by The Great RJ (q)
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To: Stoat

His offense evidently is not that he advocated euthanasia, but that he suggested last century's humane method, not this century's (lethal injection).


9 posted on 09/24/2005 1:27:27 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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"...Sadly, Swindon has no pier. Otherwise he could jump off it. .."

Is that really in the article? Where are editors these days...? PEER is the word that should have been used instead of PIER, and the whole sentence is then incorrect and not a joke.

11 posted on 09/24/2005 1:34:05 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Stoat

From a nation that is too enlightened to sentence murderers and rapists to death. I'm floored...


13 posted on 09/24/2005 1:40:48 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: Stoat
Maybe he was quoted out of context..... like Cindy Sheehan always is.
14 posted on 09/24/2005 1:45:09 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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"The only difference between a terminally ill patient and a severely handicapped child is time." The councillor, of Swindon, Wilts, argued the funds should instead be used to cut NHS waiting lists.

He added: "It shows how peculiar we are as a society on this matter that we spend this vast amount of money caring for disabled youngsters to very little purpose at all.

"It would be better spent on those who might actually benefit, such as cancer sufferers. We have 5,800 people waiting to go into hospital in Swindon. A percentage of those will die as a result of waiting too long."

I don't doubt for a minute these sorts of decisions would happen in this country if the 'rats ever succeed in forcing socialized medicine on us.

16 posted on 09/24/2005 1:45:29 PM PDT by sassbox
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ok...why doesn't he kick it off? Let's start with him since he has a mind that is disabled. You first dude.


18 posted on 09/24/2005 1:56:19 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for our country than anyone will ever know. He's a man of honor.)
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Owen Lister, 79

You know, when people hit 75, 80, they start to run up an awful lot of medical costs. . . .

19 posted on 09/24/2005 2:12:58 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Sauce for the gander.)
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“I indicated at that point that really perhaps the guillotine might be better. These are children you cannot educate. It’s merely a matter of caring for them until they die.”

Do you know how many Democratic Party constituents we would have to kill off if this principle took hold? ;)

20 posted on 09/24/2005 2:15:20 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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Check his family lineage. He must be direct descendant of Marie Antoinette.
21 posted on 09/24/2005 2:35:24 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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There was a decision about the placement of severely disabled children at a cost of £3,000 per child per week....

That's roughly $5000 a week.  So to care for 100 severely disabled children would run half a million dollars  a week. Whew. Socialized medicine isn't just inefficient, it's wildly expensive.

22 posted on 09/24/2005 2:51:20 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: 8mmMauser

fyi.


26 posted on 09/24/2005 3:50:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Stoat

Sounds like A Modest Proposal...


34 posted on 09/24/2005 6:05:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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I recommend the guillotine for the severely Islamic.


35 posted on 09/24/2005 6:09:15 PM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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I'm disabled, and if they come for me, they best bring the whole crew.

~Corey


38 posted on 09/25/2005 5:49:47 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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